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<p>[QUOTE="mirana, post: 9753928, member: 79705"]I think wax portraits are really interesting, so when I saw this mis-identified one come up for very little I decided to get it. I consider it a "cameo adjacent" work to go with my growing cameo collection.</p><p><br /></p><p>Forgive him his world-worn condition, as I do. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie17" alt=":bag:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/tongue.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":p" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]479074[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The dark areas are the bits of fabric fibers that have relocated during the years.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]479075[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Lens brought up this painted version, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1464737313811153&set=a.1430256300592588" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1464737313811153&set=a.1430256300592588" rel="nofollow">naming it as Lord William Campbell</a>, apparently sculpted by his wildly interesting and multi-talented niece <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Seymour_Damer" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Seymour_Damer" rel="nofollow">Anne Seymour Damer</a>. I don't know if that is accurate because all I can find is the auction and the facebook post referencing it. There aren't that many portraits of him either, and they have a shorter wig.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]479079[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Lord Campbell was the ill-fated Governor of Charleston who got run out of town in 1775, came back with His Majesty's ships, and was wounded for his efforts to get the colony to settle down. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie84" alt=":smuggrin:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> He died in 1780. Anne was a sculptor, painter, and writer having many interests so a wax portrait (a medium she was familiar with) is believable. She was once captured by pirates and released unharmed, so I guess she often did the unbelievable anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not expect mine is by his famous niece, but oddly I can't find any others. I'm also not aware of him being much of a national hero (or martyr?) to drum up many sales, but could believe it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now...given his death date, do we suspect this was made close to then? Or later in early 19th century? Or even deeper into 19th?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]479077[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Screw-eye and split ring hanger. A very loosely weaved (handmade?) paper backing over an animal-glued seamed shadowbox (I could peek into a brittle hole in the paper).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]479078[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Hand made nails (?) and a gesso-on-wood finish. Bubbles in the glass.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm still trying to dig up more info, but in the meantime... What do y'all think for date? Do we think this is His Lordship (that wig is suspect...), or someone else? If so, is making lesser unpainted cast(?) waxes a regular thing, so it might have a similar source? I bought it cheaply on an uninformed whim so...totally new to this type of thing. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":D" unselectable="on" /> Thanks y'all![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mirana, post: 9753928, member: 79705"]I think wax portraits are really interesting, so when I saw this mis-identified one come up for very little I decided to get it. I consider it a "cameo adjacent" work to go with my growing cameo collection. Forgive him his world-worn condition, as I do. :bag::p [ATTACH=full]479074[/ATTACH] The dark areas are the bits of fabric fibers that have relocated during the years. [ATTACH=full]479075[/ATTACH] Lens brought up this painted version, [URL='https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1464737313811153&set=a.1430256300592588']naming it as Lord William Campbell[/URL], apparently sculpted by his wildly interesting and multi-talented niece [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Seymour_Damer']Anne Seymour Damer[/URL]. I don't know if that is accurate because all I can find is the auction and the facebook post referencing it. There aren't that many portraits of him either, and they have a shorter wig. [ATTACH=full]479079[/ATTACH] Lord Campbell was the ill-fated Governor of Charleston who got run out of town in 1775, came back with His Majesty's ships, and was wounded for his efforts to get the colony to settle down. :smuggrin: He died in 1780. Anne was a sculptor, painter, and writer having many interests so a wax portrait (a medium she was familiar with) is believable. She was once captured by pirates and released unharmed, so I guess she often did the unbelievable anyway. I do not expect mine is by his famous niece, but oddly I can't find any others. I'm also not aware of him being much of a national hero (or martyr?) to drum up many sales, but could believe it. Now...given his death date, do we suspect this was made close to then? Or later in early 19th century? Or even deeper into 19th? [ATTACH=full]479077[/ATTACH] Screw-eye and split ring hanger. A very loosely weaved (handmade?) paper backing over an animal-glued seamed shadowbox (I could peek into a brittle hole in the paper). [ATTACH=full]479078[/ATTACH] Hand made nails (?) and a gesso-on-wood finish. Bubbles in the glass. I'm still trying to dig up more info, but in the meantime... What do y'all think for date? Do we think this is His Lordship (that wig is suspect...), or someone else? If so, is making lesser unpainted cast(?) waxes a regular thing, so it might have a similar source? I bought it cheaply on an uninformed whim so...totally new to this type of thing. :D Thanks y'all![/QUOTE]
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