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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;carrs, post: 215345, member: 3950&quot;]I have eventually got round too taking photos of this plate. I say plate is their another name for this? Vae Victis was found as Latin meaning &quot;woe to the vanquished&quot;, or &quot;woe to the conquered that was easy though I should really read up on Latin. I cannot find information about the armorial or blue pattern on the rim. I wonder why there is no makers name or markings? I presume this is Ironstone and dated around late 1800s but this is only a guess. I look forward to any information as this has stumped me for sometime. [ATTACH=full]63493[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]63494[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]63495[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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