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<p>[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 2275492, member: 13464"]Hi again @Aquataine</p><p><br /></p><p>SAW-wheeet! I love the one with the harps too! It looks to me like it is hand done! Late 1800's - "needle run" Limerick.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me - that the "heavier" outline threads are flatter on one side (more like a "running stitch" -which would be the back side of a chain stitch) and more pronounced (raised higher - a chain stitch) on the other. The "other" being the top side; and the flatter side being the back side. You also might be able to tell the front and back by looking at how the fabric is attached. The "cut edge" of the fabric is usually either rolled inside itself and stitched toward the back, or simply folded back and stitched on the back. It is rare that the "cut edges" would be on the top side.</p><p><br /></p><p>The way the smaller threads are "looped" around loosely inside the leaves is not something that a machine could do easily; another reason I believe it to be hand worked.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can check your other two possible hand done "needle run" pieces and see if they have similar stitches.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also this piece does not have "mitered" corners again (cut and stitched). Although it is possible for hand made yardage to be cut and stitched into a miter ... hand made pieces are usually either made in clear segments and joined or made all in one piece, rather than cut. Of course, there are always exceptions.</p><p><br /></p><p>Item #8 - which I "thought" to be machine by the photo, the stitches would probably look a bit different. Look under magnification to compare. This example has cut and joined mitered corners; another reason it may be machine.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second handkerchief is most certainly hand done. Brussels Duchesse. Yes, 1880's Belgian. I believe your pics to be the back side. In the close up, I can see little "cut offs" on buds and curls and in the full size photo... it looks like there is a tiny fancy edge on the other side of the linen. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /> A pretty little example!</p><p><br /></p><p>As for removing the lace. Yes, possible. First you need to determine how the lace is attached. I think there are 3 ways I can think of:</p><p><br /></p><p>1. Attached by machine - either zig zag or running stitch. Either is picky; but very possible to snip and pick off.</p><p>2. Attached by hand - usually a simple whip stitch which is easy enough to remove...still picky; but not difficult.</p><p>3. The crochet is "directly" attached to the fabric. In this case you would HAVE to actually cut the fabric and NOT cut any of the crochet threads. Once the lace with a tiny edge of fabric was cut away from the pillow case; the lace could be reapplied some how. But the reattachment would probably have to have some sort of a seam covering the cut edge of the fabric.</p><p><br /></p><p>Look under magnification. If you can't identify which one it is; send me a close up and I should be able to determine which it is and indicate which threads to cut.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope that helps! I'm delighted to share info! </p><p>Thanks for sharing with US!</p><p><br /></p><p>Cheerio Leslie[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Northern Lights Lodge, post: 2275492, member: 13464"]Hi again @Aquataine SAW-wheeet! I love the one with the harps too! It looks to me like it is hand done! Late 1800's - "needle run" Limerick. It seems to me - that the "heavier" outline threads are flatter on one side (more like a "running stitch" -which would be the back side of a chain stitch) and more pronounced (raised higher - a chain stitch) on the other. The "other" being the top side; and the flatter side being the back side. You also might be able to tell the front and back by looking at how the fabric is attached. The "cut edge" of the fabric is usually either rolled inside itself and stitched toward the back, or simply folded back and stitched on the back. It is rare that the "cut edges" would be on the top side. The way the smaller threads are "looped" around loosely inside the leaves is not something that a machine could do easily; another reason I believe it to be hand worked. You can check your other two possible hand done "needle run" pieces and see if they have similar stitches. Also this piece does not have "mitered" corners again (cut and stitched). Although it is possible for hand made yardage to be cut and stitched into a miter ... hand made pieces are usually either made in clear segments and joined or made all in one piece, rather than cut. Of course, there are always exceptions. Item #8 - which I "thought" to be machine by the photo, the stitches would probably look a bit different. Look under magnification to compare. This example has cut and joined mitered corners; another reason it may be machine. The second handkerchief is most certainly hand done. Brussels Duchesse. Yes, 1880's Belgian. I believe your pics to be the back side. In the close up, I can see little "cut offs" on buds and curls and in the full size photo... it looks like there is a tiny fancy edge on the other side of the linen. :) A pretty little example! As for removing the lace. Yes, possible. First you need to determine how the lace is attached. I think there are 3 ways I can think of: 1. Attached by machine - either zig zag or running stitch. Either is picky; but very possible to snip and pick off. 2. Attached by hand - usually a simple whip stitch which is easy enough to remove...still picky; but not difficult. 3. The crochet is "directly" attached to the fabric. In this case you would HAVE to actually cut the fabric and NOT cut any of the crochet threads. Once the lace with a tiny edge of fabric was cut away from the pillow case; the lace could be reapplied some how. But the reattachment would probably have to have some sort of a seam covering the cut edge of the fabric. Look under magnification. If you can't identify which one it is; send me a close up and I should be able to determine which it is and indicate which threads to cut. Hope that helps! I'm delighted to share info! Thanks for sharing with US! Cheerio Leslie[/QUOTE]
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