Umbrella Stand or just a vase....

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Alan G, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    I'm not disputing you, I was just trying to explain where the 100 year definition came from. Note the last sentence.

    ". . . One hundred years has been adopted as the criteria for being called an antique. Anything less than that would be considered a collectible.
    This is something that has been debated and discussed for quite a while."

     
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  2. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

  3. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    "Your 2009 iMac makes the cut," said any tech support guy on earth.
     
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  4. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    ClutteredCloset is accurate on the 100 year criteria for "authentic antiques" and Desperate Fun is only slightly off. In fact she's too generous. The Antique Automobile Club of America set the age as 20 years. So if you have a 1996 Chevy you can register with them as antique. ?????? :sorry: But each State sets their dates as suits them. So you may not qualify for a special license plate.

    Since I might qualify as antique in a decade or so, I'm with the 100 year mark for "antiques." But that's a bit hard for a 75 year old looking for the toys he played with as a kid not being antique. So most of us give them some leeway.
    But that doesn't mean all of us. |

    Some may remember the Alma Frappia needle work for which these folks successfully ended my 60 year quest. It was clearly dated 1888. In 1970 I had brought it to the head historian for Antiques & The Arts Weekly in Newtown, CT for help. She told me I had to come back in 18 years to have it considered antique.

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    UmbrellaStand.jpg

    ~Borrowed pic. as sample for educational purpose.
    ~This is only 24 inches tall and is officially an umbrella stand. It's most similar to the one I grew up with in the front entry foyer. So close I think that's identical. Can't be positive because it went with my bro's house that burned down about ten years ago.
     
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  5. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Hmph. Some of my wardrobe is antique. ;)
     
  6. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I agree that umbrella stand doesn't make sense. It's a really beautiful vase!
     
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  7. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

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  8. Alan G

    Alan G Member

    Thanks very much to everyone for your comments and suggestions regarding the umbrella stand/vase. The additional information has been very helpful. :)
     
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  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I think that is 'classics'.
    I have 'Collector Vehicle' plates on my '69 Chevy pick up and soon...I hope...on my '68 Nova SS. :)
     
  10. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    My apologies. #1. For the HE/SHE error. I hope to remember.

    #2. I always thought 25 years to qualify for antique status on a car. Surprised when I saw the below statement saying 20. "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's true." Is a unquestionable correct statement, not just because it's printed here.
    I scrolled your attachment to about page 5 and it very clearly says 25 years is the criteria. I'm going to reset that part in my memory box.

    BUT, there may be a lot of folks out there relying on this --------------copied and pasted=========================

    When you have an antique car that you are considering restoring or registering as a classic car in your state, there can be some important questions about what makes a vehicle qualify as an antique car. This guide makes use of the standards employed by the Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA), the largest antique auto club in the United States. The following list will help you determine if you vehicle is an antique car by AACA standards.

    1. Antique cars are those older than 20 years of age. In order to be considered an antique car, a vehicle must be over 20 years of age. However, the requirements to register a vehicle as an antique vary by state, so specific questions should be geared to your state's department of motor vehicles.
    2. Antique car classification is subjective. The classification of antique cars is a subjective art at best, with the term broadly meaning any vehicle that is older than 20 years of age. While the term is normally connected with speciality vehicles or those that have a special place in American history or culture, any 20 year old vehicle is technically an antique. Joining or contacting a group like the AACA can put you in touch with experts who will help you classify your vehicle.
    3. A vehicle need not be restored to be an antique. Although a vehicle classified as an antique will be worth more if it is restored, an expensive restoration is not a requirement for classification as an antique. Similarly, if you choose to register your vehicle as an antique in your state, there are no requirements for the vehicle to be restored.
    I don't care what that says, Mr. Desperate fun is correct. 25 years wins.
     
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  11. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    TOG,

    I will admit it is confusing.
     
  12. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    Growing up" (something i'm still trying to do) I thought it was 25 for classic and 50 for antique. Now it's 25 for antique. I really don't agree with that, but maybe they need to bulk up their membership.

    What do you have to do, King, to qualify your Nova which is one year older than the already qualified Chevy?
     
  13. Alan G

    Alan G Member

    With regard to the antique auto discussion, here is the Arkansas law regarding the licencing of antique automobiles....

    Plate/Placard

    Antique Vehicle License Plate

    Description

    Specialty license plate for antique (25 years or older) vehicle.

    Eligibility

    For historical or special interest vehicles or any vehicle that is twenty five (25) years old or older, which is essentially unaltered from the original manufacturers specifications.
     
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  14. TheOLdGuy

    TheOLdGuy Well-Known Member

    I thought it odd the first time. Now I'm pretty darn sure that one I had first used and just posted is a typo.

    Where did you get your "pamphlet?" I noted it said $5.00 on the cover.
    And looks a lot more authentic.
     
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  15. desperate_fun

    desperate_fun Irregular Member

    TOG,

    I got it right from the AACA website. And as pointed out by Alan, the definition (for registration and insurance purposes) of Antique vehicle varies from State to State
     
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  16. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    I'll chime in and say it's definitely a decorative vase. Anyone sticking an umbrella in that thing might miss and take off a flower. I'm not sure I'd stand it on the floor, either. There's another newish post on furniture about a pier mirror. My feeling is this would have stood on a pier table (partner for a pier mirror) in a large foyer.
     
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  17. Alan G

    Alan G Member

    Hi Bev... Thanks for your input and I agree with regard to the flailing umbrellas. As far as the flowers themselves go, I tripped accidentally one night when getting up from the bed and I had the 'vase' sitting next to a wall in my bedroom. When I fell I missed it just by inches and if I had fallen on the vase I would probably be wearing multiple scars. I moved it the next morning to a location where that could not happen. Those flowers could be extremely dangerous depended on where the vase was located and if children had access to it. :(
     
  18. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I love those ceramic flowers, and would imagine if it were used as an umbrella stand, they would probably still NOT be in as GOOD LOOKING condition!!! It's BEAUTIFUL!!!!
     
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