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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 967528, member: 5833"]If there is any such convention, it is unknown to me, but I'm not anything like a painting expert. The people in the background here do not exactly look like they are going about their daily lives.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I started down, then quickly jumped back out of, the rabbit hole of guild seals, as it was leading me into some D&D/New Agey Wonderland. However, I do think such devices would not have been confined to printers, that masters of various trades & crafts probably had them, as in the excerpt Jivvy posted, as a guarantee of authenticity & quality, the guild member's proud equivalent of a coat of arms.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think Colonial Williamsburg is just tapping into the same tradition & would not be likely to be helpful with our inquiry.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Academia di San Luca is the Roman counterpart of London's Royal Academy, just a lot older.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The dancers are odd in a couple of ways, one of which is that they are an even number. Three would have given them the look of the Graces, as they have come to be represented, except the discarded clothing & everything else about the scene would have said otherwise. But an even number of flowers in a vase, beads on a necklace or dancers on a canvas leaves a void as the center point of the composition; odd numbers are more pleasing to the eye. The other odd thing here as that you could see the foursome as a group of an inward facing three & an outward facing one. Is she leading the others? Are they swinging her around like a human carnival ride? Did she drink the contents of the jug by herself?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I asked about the instrument because I think I'm seeing a lyre, not a herdsman's instrument unless he also happens to be a prince, common enough in myth. Pipes are traditional for such folk. Looking again at the brighter photo, think the man on the left does indeed have a flute. If there has been overpainting, guy on the right may be meant to have a small drum, which would be consistent with the scene.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I had the thought that it could be Midsummer revels.</p><p><br /></p><p>There was a time when nothing in a painting was without meaning. Is there significance here in the 2 goat herd/musicians appearing to be one young & one older? In the 3 inward facing dancers appearing to have lighter hair than the the one facing outward? I do not know. Suspect the castle is there more to set the scene as on the lands of an estate than to place it anywhere recognizable. They are not in the woodland; it's a pastoral setting.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 967528, member: 5833"]If there is any such convention, it is unknown to me, but I'm not anything like a painting expert. The people in the background here do not exactly look like they are going about their daily lives. I started down, then quickly jumped back out of, the rabbit hole of guild seals, as it was leading me into some D&D/New Agey Wonderland. However, I do think such devices would not have been confined to printers, that masters of various trades & crafts probably had them, as in the excerpt Jivvy posted, as a guarantee of authenticity & quality, the guild member's proud equivalent of a coat of arms. I think Colonial Williamsburg is just tapping into the same tradition & would not be likely to be helpful with our inquiry. The Academia di San Luca is the Roman counterpart of London's Royal Academy, just a lot older. The dancers are odd in a couple of ways, one of which is that they are an even number. Three would have given them the look of the Graces, as they have come to be represented, except the discarded clothing & everything else about the scene would have said otherwise. But an even number of flowers in a vase, beads on a necklace or dancers on a canvas leaves a void as the center point of the composition; odd numbers are more pleasing to the eye. The other odd thing here as that you could see the foursome as a group of an inward facing three & an outward facing one. Is she leading the others? Are they swinging her around like a human carnival ride? Did she drink the contents of the jug by herself? I asked about the instrument because I think I'm seeing a lyre, not a herdsman's instrument unless he also happens to be a prince, common enough in myth. Pipes are traditional for such folk. Looking again at the brighter photo, think the man on the left does indeed have a flute. If there has been overpainting, guy on the right may be meant to have a small drum, which would be consistent with the scene. I had the thought that it could be Midsummer revels. There was a time when nothing in a painting was without meaning. Is there significance here in the 2 goat herd/musicians appearing to be one young & one older? In the 3 inward facing dancers appearing to have lighter hair than the the one facing outward? I do not know. Suspect the castle is there more to set the scene as on the lands of an estate than to place it anywhere recognizable. They are not in the woodland; it's a pastoral setting.[/QUOTE]
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