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<p>[QUOTE="all_fakes, post: 3357232, member: 55"]The later photos are not opening for me at the moment, but I'm having some other network issues, so who knows. I was not at all suggesting Simon Charlie, and would not think this was his; the guess about Duncan BC was based on the fact that in earlier years there were a number of carvers there working in eclectic, and rather non-authentic appearing styles.</p><p>Just as an example; in that region younger members have studied with mentors such as Hunt family members, and are doing nice and authentic work; but in the 1960s and earlier, driven by the tourist trade, they did things that were pretty much self-taught, and frankly not very good.</p><p>Again not pointing to them as a source for this item; just saying that there have been at times native carvers who did work that wasn't very good or authentic.</p><p>Most of those carvers can be ID'd by other characteristics however, and this totem doesn't sing out to me as being anyone I know of.</p><p>I agree with earlier comments about problematic details.</p><p>I'd also note these things: 1) the ovoids in the wings are too square, not anything that would be considered correct in native styles; 2) the divided u-forms in the wings are not correct for native work. 3) the wings in general look an awful lot like earlier Indonesian imports. 4) the eagle's face has a rather Indonesian look.</p><p>All told, I'd venture a guess that this is an early Indonesian import, maybe late 1960s, early 1970s or even later, that has been left outside for a number of years and has weathered. But could also be any number of non-native origins also; or even native that happens to look like this. I'd be about 70/30% on those two guesses. Sort of saying I'd think it is about twice as likely to be non-native as native.</p><p>As for totem-pole experts....Komokwa is such an expert, though he is rather modest (at times); and some folks might say the same about me...I haven't bought or sold anything like the number of totempoles that Komo has, but have contributed to a museum exhibit and related book on model totem-poles; my core specialties are totem carvers from Metlakatla Alaska, 1900-1950; and the Blunden Harbor/Smith Inlet areas of the Kwakwaka'wakw, 1920-1970. I loaned items from both those areas to the museum, and they took some nice photos.</p><p>I think both Komo and I would say that this item shows a number of features that suggest a non-native origin, and few that point to a native source.</p><p>I still wish I could see what is on the chest.....but my network is almost crashed at the moment.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="all_fakes, post: 3357232, member: 55"]The later photos are not opening for me at the moment, but I'm having some other network issues, so who knows. I was not at all suggesting Simon Charlie, and would not think this was his; the guess about Duncan BC was based on the fact that in earlier years there were a number of carvers there working in eclectic, and rather non-authentic appearing styles. Just as an example; in that region younger members have studied with mentors such as Hunt family members, and are doing nice and authentic work; but in the 1960s and earlier, driven by the tourist trade, they did things that were pretty much self-taught, and frankly not very good. Again not pointing to them as a source for this item; just saying that there have been at times native carvers who did work that wasn't very good or authentic. Most of those carvers can be ID'd by other characteristics however, and this totem doesn't sing out to me as being anyone I know of. I agree with earlier comments about problematic details. I'd also note these things: 1) the ovoids in the wings are too square, not anything that would be considered correct in native styles; 2) the divided u-forms in the wings are not correct for native work. 3) the wings in general look an awful lot like earlier Indonesian imports. 4) the eagle's face has a rather Indonesian look. All told, I'd venture a guess that this is an early Indonesian import, maybe late 1960s, early 1970s or even later, that has been left outside for a number of years and has weathered. But could also be any number of non-native origins also; or even native that happens to look like this. I'd be about 70/30% on those two guesses. Sort of saying I'd think it is about twice as likely to be non-native as native. As for totem-pole experts....Komokwa is such an expert, though he is rather modest (at times); and some folks might say the same about me...I haven't bought or sold anything like the number of totempoles that Komo has, but have contributed to a museum exhibit and related book on model totem-poles; my core specialties are totem carvers from Metlakatla Alaska, 1900-1950; and the Blunden Harbor/Smith Inlet areas of the Kwakwaka'wakw, 1920-1970. I loaned items from both those areas to the museum, and they took some nice photos. I think both Komo and I would say that this item shows a number of features that suggest a non-native origin, and few that point to a native source. I still wish I could see what is on the chest.....but my network is almost crashed at the moment.[/QUOTE]
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