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Message:: [QUOTE="Jose Deleon, post: 7780710, member: 14560"]Ok guys what everyone opinion? The official kiln was destroyed in xianfeng & tongzhi  but in xianfeng 6th year they made a qianjiang tile. Also many of provanal(spell check) & private kiln jingdezhen wasn't the only kiln. Many folk kiln was out & made. Tongzhi had official bday plates made those are official. Can you really see xianfeng & tongzhi period not making 1 single porcelain? I can't gasped that knowing others kiln. Now the bowl is mine & is painted very good for its size & painted good not as fine in Sotheby's but good. I have a real guangxu period plate with a central dragon & ball as well but the ball is not as good as this dish. The books always talk about this & that never minyao ware like this. Never no good answer just Republic lol I need opinion because I think is 1874/1870s I refuse to say late qing in dating. Late qing seems to me to easy to date a hard items they even had a period [GALLERY=media, 10892]T by Jose Deleon posted Feb 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM[/GALLERY][GALLERY=media, 10893]T by Jose Deleon posted Feb 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM[/GALLERY][GALLERY=media, 10894]T by Jose Deleon posted Feb 4, 2023 at 10:52 AM[/GALLERY][/QUOTE]