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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bronwen, post: 585879, member: 5833&quot;]Thought I remembered there was a reed metaphor somewhere, maybe someone not being a hollow reed.&nbsp; But my point is that John is not specifically described as carrying a cross made of reeds.&nbsp; It may have become an allusive artistic convention for portraying him that, like all the others, was sometimes employed, sometimes not.&nbsp; I&#039;m with Jivvy:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The question that interests me is whether or not the presence in OP&#039;s painting of something that could be a reed is sufficient to make an ID of J the B.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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