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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bronwen, post: 585408, member: 5833&quot;]The staff/cross that looks like bamboo in the one Caravaggio, the one I was ready to discount as John, is really rather strange &amp; not consistent with the usual convention of giving him something sturdy enough to help in all his traveling around over trackless ground.&nbsp; Something reed-like would never hold up under the wear, good only for carrying around, something like a thyrsus for Dionysus.&nbsp; On the other hand, you could use something switch-like for managing sheep &amp;, as you point out, we do not know how the upper end of our sleeper&#039;s rod looks.&nbsp; The <i>pedum</i> in depictions of shepherds &amp; other rustics in classical art looks more like a hockey stick than a crook.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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