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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 585400, member: 5833"]Think we can be sure this one is John:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175541[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This one too:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175542[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Seeing this as Caravaggio may be wishful thinking, but it is certainly John:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.wikiart.org/en/caravaggio/john-the-baptist-reclining-baptist-1610" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.wikiart.org/en/caravaggio/john-the-baptist-reclining-baptist-1610" rel="nofollow">https://www.wikiart.org/en/caravaggio/john-the-baptist-reclining-baptist-1610</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175543[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I was beginning to wonder whether this one was John after all, until I noticed that there does seem to be a crosspiece on the staff:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175545[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175544[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This one, however, despite similarities with the one above, just can't see this full monty presentation of a joyous youth on intimate terms with what may well be a goat as any sort of saint:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]175547[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Not at all. It is not unheard of for scholars/museum curators to reconsider a work & come to new conclusions that depart from what had been received wisdom. And there is good reason to reconsider the nude boy hugging the ram/goat, see what it says for itself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 585400, member: 5833"]Think we can be sure this one is John: [ATTACH=full]175541[/ATTACH] This one too: [ATTACH=full]175542[/ATTACH] Seeing this as Caravaggio may be wishful thinking, but it is certainly John: [URL]https://www.wikiart.org/en/caravaggio/john-the-baptist-reclining-baptist-1610[/URL] [ATTACH=full]175543[/ATTACH] I was beginning to wonder whether this one was John after all, until I noticed that there does seem to be a crosspiece on the staff: [ATTACH=full]175545[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]175544[/ATTACH] This one, however, despite similarities with the one above, just can't see this full monty presentation of a joyous youth on intimate terms with what may well be a goat as any sort of saint: [ATTACH=full]175547[/ATTACH] Not at all. It is not unheard of for scholars/museum curators to reconsider a work & come to new conclusions that depart from what had been received wisdom. And there is good reason to reconsider the nude boy hugging the ram/goat, see what it says for itself.[/QUOTE]
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