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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ladybranch, post: 109539, member: 44&quot;]Good suggestion, but like another said, not an easy task. I&#039;ve tried googling such things or combinations of the following: </p><p>Crest: arm holding dagger </p><p>Shield/escutcheon elements: flower or clover, dagger, crescent. </p><p><br /></p><p>There are 100s of crests with an arm holding/with dagger. This usually means some sort of leadership. The following are just some for Great Britain: </p><p><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=3...Q6AEIRDAK#v=onepage&amp;q=arm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://books.google.com/books?id=3...Q6AEIRDAK#v=onepage&amp;q=arm" rel="nofollow">https://books.google.com/books?id=3...Q6AEIRDAK#v=onepage&amp;q=arm</a> with dagger&amp;f=false </p><p><br /></p><p>Not sure what the flower or clover is in the top 2 quadrants. Did spot somewhere that a crescent among other things is used usually by a 2nd son. </p><p><br /></p><p>The shape of this shield aludes me. I haven&#039;t found one exactly like this. The closest I&#039;ve found was called Anglais - English Tudor arch. This one doesn&#039;t look the same, but then again those might be Tudor roses in the top quadrants??? Following is a link to one called English Tudor: </p><p>#8 in the pic to the right. Click the pic for enlarged pic. <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)#Varying_shapes" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)#Varying_shapes" rel="nofollow">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escutcheon_(heraldry)#Varying_shapes</a></p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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