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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 2283348, member: 2844"]Sis, I had never even heard of Raam.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie51" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>The Dutch word ram means the same as in English, a male sheep. It is also used for the zodiac sign aries, which could be the connection in the case of Ram plateel.</p><p>The Dutch word raam means window.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/confused.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The word 'eer' can mean both honour and an indefinite period of time. The time refered to depends on a combination with other words.</p><p>In the case of 'eertyds' or 'eertijds' it means from times past.</p><p>'Eertyds Holland' could possibly refer to the fact that Raam used to be in Holland, but it is a rather German way of saying it, using Dutch words, but not in the right context. In proper Dutch it would be 'Voorheen Holland'.</p><p>So I have my doubts.</p><p><br /></p><p>I know that Hoyng, primarily a retailer, was the owner of Ram when the factory closed in 1969, but I seem to remember there were other owners between 1945 and when Hoyng took over.</p><p>Hoyng used to sell Delfts blue, and I would think they would have had it made in their own factory, but that is just guessing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also find it very strange that a Dutch firm would move to Germany in 1945, when they were glad to see the back of the German occupiers. They certainly wouldn't have been able to sell anything in the Netherlands, because they would have been regarded as traitors.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know if this helps at all, a Raam mark on a Delfts blue tea caddy. It has the name of a German painter and the German word 'handgemalt'. If the Ram Delfts workshop had continued in Germany using the name Raam, presumably they would have taken the Dutch painters with them.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.theoldstuff.com/images/phocagallery/delfts/raam_delfts_blauw_mark.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/delfts/430-delfts-raam-tea-caddy" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/delfts/430-delfts-raam-tea-caddy" rel="nofollow">https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/delfts/430-delfts-raam-tea-caddy</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 2283348, member: 2844"]Sis, I had never even heard of Raam.:hilarious: The Dutch word ram means the same as in English, a male sheep. It is also used for the zodiac sign aries, which could be the connection in the case of Ram plateel. The Dutch word raam means window.:confused: The word 'eer' can mean both honour and an indefinite period of time. The time refered to depends on a combination with other words. In the case of 'eertyds' or 'eertijds' it means from times past. 'Eertyds Holland' could possibly refer to the fact that Raam used to be in Holland, but it is a rather German way of saying it, using Dutch words, but not in the right context. In proper Dutch it would be 'Voorheen Holland'. So I have my doubts. I know that Hoyng, primarily a retailer, was the owner of Ram when the factory closed in 1969, but I seem to remember there were other owners between 1945 and when Hoyng took over. Hoyng used to sell Delfts blue, and I would think they would have had it made in their own factory, but that is just guessing. I also find it very strange that a Dutch firm would move to Germany in 1945, when they were glad to see the back of the German occupiers. They certainly wouldn't have been able to sell anything in the Netherlands, because they would have been regarded as traitors. I don't know if this helps at all, a Raam mark on a Delfts blue tea caddy. It has the name of a German painter and the German word 'handgemalt'. If the Ram Delfts workshop had continued in Germany using the name Raam, presumably they would have taken the Dutch painters with them. [IMG]https://www.theoldstuff.com/images/phocagallery/delfts/raam_delfts_blauw_mark.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.theoldstuff.com/en/delfts/430-delfts-raam-tea-caddy[/URL][/QUOTE]
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