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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 20566, member: 111"]Wasn't really commenting on whether it's a 'good one' or not, just that, other than a mark indicating .800 fineness, there is nothing that points to it as being from Germany, Italy or anywhere else in Europe - I'm rather fond of mine. Don't know if these were made for a particular purpose, but I've seen more than one with remnants of kumkum...</p><p><br /></p><p>Keeping in mind that sales descriptions are often not particularly reliable reference, here is an unmarked box, showing a bit more recognizable 'Indian' motif (note similarity in the chasing, the striated background):</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/141382661036?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D141382661036%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/141382661036?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D141382661036%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/141382661036?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=141382661036&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And another:</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/251647717359?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%257CR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D251647717359%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/251647717359?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%257CR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D251647717359%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/251647717359?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40%7CR40&_sacat=0&_nkw=251647717359&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Similar work on a State Express 555 cigarette case, from a Rajasthan seller:</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/110703362926?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D110703362926%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/110703362926?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D110703362926%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/110703362926?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=110703362926&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Another unmarked box, different form, the borders very similar to yours, coming from Rajasthan. 'Antique' silver from India is often offered by wholesalers (custom orders available), but this one does seem to show some wear and there's probably no real problem with their claim of 70-80 years old, making it mid 20th century - might question it being 'rare':</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/271596985419?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D271596985419%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/271596985419?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D271596985419%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/271596985419?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=271596985419&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The lid of the box above has elements similar to some found on Rajasthani tribal jewelry:</p><p><a href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/89244031/large-antique-indian-amulet-surya-sun?ref=sr_gallery_14&ga_search_query=rajasthan+tribal+pendant&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/89244031/large-antique-indian-amulet-surya-sun?ref=sr_gallery_14&ga_search_query=rajasthan+tribal+pendant&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery" rel="nofollow">https://www.etsy.com/listing/89244031/large-antique-indian-amulet-surya-sun?ref=sr_gallery_14&ga_search_query=rajasthan tribal pendant&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Rajasthani taviz amulet bearing an '800' mark:</p><p><a href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/171983584/pendant-india-rajasthan-silver-800?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=rajasthan+800&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.etsy.com/listing/171983584/pendant-india-rajasthan-silver-800?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=rajasthan+800&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery" rel="nofollow">https://www.etsy.com/listing/171983584/pendant-india-rajasthan-silver-800?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=rajasthan 800&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Despite being firmly identified as German, these boxes are also Indian:</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/161353002675?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D161353002675%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/161353002675?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D161353002675%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/161353002675?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=161353002675&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/400751771189?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400751771189%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/400751771189?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400751771189%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/400751771189?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=400751771189&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738851066?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400738851066%26_rdc%3D1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738851066?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400738851066%26_rdc%3D1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738851066?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=400738851066&_rdc=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My box is 2" x 1½", lid set with malachite, prick-engraved 'SILVER':</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]5089[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]5091[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]5090[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 20566, member: 111"]Wasn't really commenting on whether it's a 'good one' or not, just that, other than a mark indicating .800 fineness, there is nothing that points to it as being from Germany, Italy or anywhere else in Europe - I'm rather fond of mine. Don't know if these were made for a particular purpose, but I've seen more than one with remnants of kumkum... Keeping in mind that sales descriptions are often not particularly reliable reference, here is an unmarked box, showing a bit more recognizable 'Indian' motif (note similarity in the chasing, the striated background): [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/141382661036?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D141382661036%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/141382661036?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=141382661036&_rdc=1[/URL] And another: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/251647717359?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%257CR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D251647717359%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/251647717359?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40%7CR40&_sacat=0&_nkw=251647717359&_rdc=1[/URL] Similar work on a State Express 555 cigarette case, from a Rajasthan seller: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/110703362926?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D110703362926%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/110703362926?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=110703362926&_rdc=1[/URL] Another unmarked box, different form, the borders very similar to yours, coming from Rajasthan. 'Antique' silver from India is often offered by wholesalers (custom orders available), but this one does seem to show some wear and there's probably no real problem with their claim of 70-80 years old, making it mid 20th century - might question it being 'rare': [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/271596985419?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D271596985419%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/271596985419?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=271596985419&_rdc=1[/URL] The lid of the box above has elements similar to some found on Rajasthani tribal jewelry: [URL='https://www.etsy.com/listing/89244031/large-antique-indian-amulet-surya-sun?ref=sr_gallery_14&ga_search_query=rajasthan+tribal+pendant&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery']https://www.etsy.com/listing/89244031/large-antique-indian-amulet-surya-sun?ref=sr_gallery_14&ga_search_query=rajasthan tribal pendant&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery[/URL] Rajasthani taviz amulet bearing an '800' mark: [URL='https://www.etsy.com/listing/171983584/pendant-india-rajasthan-silver-800?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=rajasthan+800&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery']https://www.etsy.com/listing/171983584/pendant-india-rajasthan-silver-800?ref=sr_gallery_1&ga_search_query=rajasthan 800&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery[/URL] Despite being firmly identified as German, these boxes are also Indian: [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/161353002675?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D161353002675%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/161353002675?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=161353002675&_rdc=1[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/400751771189?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400751771189%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/400751771189?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=400751771189&_rdc=1[/URL] [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738851066?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D400738851066%26_rdc%3D1']http://www.ebay.com/itm/400738851066?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=400738851066&_rdc=1[/URL] My box is 2" x 1½", lid set with malachite, prick-engraved 'SILVER': [ATTACH=full]5089[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]5091[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]5090[/ATTACH] ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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