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<p>[QUOTE="J Dagger, post: 10208050, member: 10944"]Why must it be a shipwreck? It doesn’t specifically like it was under the ocean for hundreds or more years. Not that everything does after that but yours doesn’t. I wish I could remember my source but I saw something once that talked about a large amount of Chinese porcelain being in at least several places in Africa back sometime in the 16th-18th century. I can’t recall exactly when or where. There were immensely rich kingdoms in Africa though and they did trade with China or at least with folks that did trade with China. My memory stinks. I’m not just talking about colonial regimes either. There were native African people of power that appreciated Chinese porcelain. It can still be found in some places and in some museums. They liked to put it on the walls or even build it into their walls if I recall correctly. The Muslim world really loved Chinese porcelain going back many hundreds or even thousands of years. The Chinese made many porcelain pieces based on Muslim metal forms. I don’t think that’s the connection to Africa either though. Most of its been stolen or looted or put on museums but there are places in African hands that still have old Chinese porcelain. For some reason Mali is coming to mind. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for your fragment I don’t know where it’s from. I have a great Mottahedeh repro of a Japanese plate with a somewhat similar rabbit though. I’ll take a pic and post it. I guess yours is more likely Chinese. At this point in 2024 though it doesn’t necessarily have a historical connection.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="J Dagger, post: 10208050, member: 10944"]Why must it be a shipwreck? It doesn’t specifically like it was under the ocean for hundreds or more years. Not that everything does after that but yours doesn’t. I wish I could remember my source but I saw something once that talked about a large amount of Chinese porcelain being in at least several places in Africa back sometime in the 16th-18th century. I can’t recall exactly when or where. There were immensely rich kingdoms in Africa though and they did trade with China or at least with folks that did trade with China. My memory stinks. I’m not just talking about colonial regimes either. There were native African people of power that appreciated Chinese porcelain. It can still be found in some places and in some museums. They liked to put it on the walls or even build it into their walls if I recall correctly. The Muslim world really loved Chinese porcelain going back many hundreds or even thousands of years. The Chinese made many porcelain pieces based on Muslim metal forms. I don’t think that’s the connection to Africa either though. Most of its been stolen or looted or put on museums but there are places in African hands that still have old Chinese porcelain. For some reason Mali is coming to mind. As for your fragment I don’t know where it’s from. I have a great Mottahedeh repro of a Japanese plate with a somewhat similar rabbit though. I’ll take a pic and post it. I guess yours is more likely Chinese. At this point in 2024 though it doesn’t necessarily have a historical connection.[/QUOTE]
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