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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jeff Drum, post: 401234, member: 6444&quot;]I am speaking here about wood found in the United States, and it may be quite different where this painting was made. I also do not have experience with oil paintings on wood panels, so it is possible that that is different from my experience with wood panels used on furniture. Also, I am NOT saying that I know for certain how old this is. I am only looking for things that I would want to understand before I would be convinced that it is definitely a 19th century or older painting. I do the exact same thing every time I examine a piece of furniture - I come up with a list of questions that need to be answered.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your painting is 40 cm tall as shown, which is a bit less than 16 inches. In the US, we still had trees that were wider than 16 inches being used in furniture until the end of the 19th century and into the 20th century. So when I look in a drawer bottom, I expect most 19th century pieces to have single board pieces of wood, (though some late 19th century pieces do not).</p><p><br /></p><p>But I am pretty sure I see three pieces of wood that are glued together to make your 16&quot; wide panel. Attached is your picture where it looks like the panel was joined (joints are shown with green arrows). According to Wikipedia, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel_painting" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel_painting" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panel_painting</a> &quot;A carpenter would construct a solid wood piece the size of the panel needed. <b>Usually a radial cut piece was preferred</b> (across rather than along the length of the tree; the opposite of most timber cuts), with the outer sapwood excluded. In Italy it was usually seasoned poplar, willow or linden. It would be planed and sanded and <b>if needed, joined with other pieces to obtain the desired size</b> and shape.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>The wood panel you show is unusual in three ways: 1. it is glued together from three pieces of wood rather than a single piece of wood (even though this should not be needed if early enough to have been painted when wide wood was still available); 2. the wood is not a radial cut - you can see in the woodgrain in your picture (I labelled these areas &quot;Not Radial&quot; in the picture); 3. the bevel on the back of your painting are not uniform, but vary in width (especially the right side), and they look lighter in color than the back.</p><p><br /></p><p>Number 1. and 2. make me think that this may be late 19th century at the oldest.</p><p><br /></p><p>Number 3. may be the worst. It could indicate that the wood panel was taken from a drawer bottom (though not an extremely old drawer since joined wood), and trimmed on a table saw to make it the right size. If made by hand, the bevels would be uniform and would not vary like that. Trimming of an old piece of wood would account for the variation in width and the lighter color of the beveled wood, where the bevels are about the same color as the scratches.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]139729[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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