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<p>[QUOTE="Ke.Ma, post: 9824349, member: 87334"]Hi verybrad.</p><p>To my knowledge this plate is most likely a newly made one.</p><p>The red color is under glaze right? Under glaze blue and red porcelain is very hard to make and is really expensive on the antique market. So the chance of $2.55 for one is really low. And other reasons I find it not good are:</p><p>1. The blue color is too flat, without layers. The attached pic is a under glaze blue and red vase in the forbidden city museum. You can clearly see several different layers of blue color, to show different parts of the painting.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]489762[/ATTACH] </p><p>2. The red part is image of passionflower, which is not a common pattern shown on porcelain. Moreover I think the pattern is overly simplified. The image under is a vase made in "Qian Long", you can tell the pattern is similar on the outside but inside there should be a small lotus pattern.[ATTACH=full]489763[/ATTACH]</p><p>3. The double blue circle outside the mark. The color on the inner/outer circle is almost the same, imaging painting with a quill and ink, that's not really possible.</p><p>4. There's no trace of use on the foot ring. The brown color should be some glue pasted to protect the porcelain body(the foot should be unglazed). After hundreds years' of use some of the glue should be off and showing white body. Of course if it was never used then that's another case.</p><p><br /></p><p>Over all I don't think it's made in Qing dynasty.</p><p>Concerning the Republic period(we call it 567 since mostly it's in 1950-1970s), I'm not sure. To my knowledge most item made that period were Famille rose items or blue/white items. Blue and red under glaze items were not mass produced since the low chance of success. </p><p>Nowadays (after 80s) with electric kilns more of these products appear. </p><p>So I think it is more likely to be made within 50 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm a newbie in antique and is learning, I might be wrong.</p><p>Hope these helps.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ke.Ma, post: 9824349, member: 87334"]Hi verybrad. To my knowledge this plate is most likely a newly made one. The red color is under glaze right? Under glaze blue and red porcelain is very hard to make and is really expensive on the antique market. So the chance of $2.55 for one is really low. And other reasons I find it not good are: 1. The blue color is too flat, without layers. The attached pic is a under glaze blue and red vase in the forbidden city museum. You can clearly see several different layers of blue color, to show different parts of the painting. [ATTACH=full]489762[/ATTACH] 2. The red part is image of passionflower, which is not a common pattern shown on porcelain. Moreover I think the pattern is overly simplified. The image under is a vase made in "Qian Long", you can tell the pattern is similar on the outside but inside there should be a small lotus pattern.[ATTACH=full]489763[/ATTACH] 3. The double blue circle outside the mark. The color on the inner/outer circle is almost the same, imaging painting with a quill and ink, that's not really possible. 4. There's no trace of use on the foot ring. The brown color should be some glue pasted to protect the porcelain body(the foot should be unglazed). After hundreds years' of use some of the glue should be off and showing white body. Of course if it was never used then that's another case. Over all I don't think it's made in Qing dynasty. Concerning the Republic period(we call it 567 since mostly it's in 1950-1970s), I'm not sure. To my knowledge most item made that period were Famille rose items or blue/white items. Blue and red under glaze items were not mass produced since the low chance of success. Nowadays (after 80s) with electric kilns more of these products appear. So I think it is more likely to be made within 50 years. I'm a newbie in antique and is learning, I might be wrong. Hope these helps.[/QUOTE]
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