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<p>[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4300438, member: 22714"]I would love to learn how Barbara first cleans the new antique furniture additions. </p><p><br /></p><p>First I apologise for this overly long post. Skip to the summary at the end if you prefer. </p><p><br /></p><p>How I got into antiques was incidently the route someone mentioned as rare. I began by looking at just porcelain in the very beginning, I think as an investment, I am not sure how I ended up there and it was not any porcleian it was Chinese asian porcelain. I used to follow the markets closely and traded in oil and gold and equities and grew tired of the market as it became less logical. You can look at the Dow and Nasdaq, and S&P at the moment and wonder at their extreme heights when the rest of the world's industries have been decimated by Covid, airline, tourism, shipping, cruiselines etc etc and yet when we had a slight bubble in property in 2008 they called it the great depression. </p><p><br /></p><p>The Dow and S&P and other indexs are not grounded in reality. Imo We should have started a gentle bear market in 2017 and I always recall the argument between Fiat money system, and the origional Gold standard and people wanted to get rid of the Market and go back to the gold standard. So I wanting to take a break from it, I wanted to invest my money into something tangible, that i could appreciate. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I began my first purchase with what i thought was a big chinese vase, it arrived and it was 2 inches high <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /> that was my first lesson. Images and size. I learned about Chinese Asian porcelain and over time began to aquire Chinese Asian porcelain.. Kangxi plates were still relatively cheap and accessible, transition ware was always super expensive but Yongzheng plates could still be bought for a few pounds and they have such a diverse range. From Kangxi revival to 18th century Mandarin which i really liked and Daoguang Famille rose mandarin was my favorite and then Canton export famille rose as something to sell. </p><p><br /></p><p>For some reason I really like Japanese Art the most, it was 1 very cheap, but not as available. I collected Satsuma and some the kaga-Kutani, and fukagawa particualry the 19th century fukagawa imari which is really outstanding, stunning detail and quality. Fukagawa for the agents for the imperial Palace. </p><p><br /></p><p>So as Asian art became a passion, I could not but appreciate other Porcelain styles, sevre, Dresden, Royal worcester and some the english artists like Harry Stinton. </p><p><br /></p><p>Then of course i need some rich Mahogany display cabinets to store and put all this beautiful blue and white porcelain. So i then attend antique auctions to get furniture for just that. Then of course i cannot but help notice how beautiful some of the furntiure is, and how cheap it is relative to its quality, and so i then get interested in Antique furntiture, then over time i began to put more value on furniture then i did on porcelain. </p><p><br /></p><p>I know a good bit about Porcelain but I am only learning about Antique furniture. </p><p>I always find I have made a profit when i get a really beautiful piece of furniture which is not a feeling i get when I get 19th century Asian porcelain. I suppose when i get a lovely qianglong blue and white teapot, it's beauty overwhelms and is almost the same as when i get a lovley piece of furniture.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furniture is more dynamic, Porcelain is limited in it's appeal. To someone who appreciates it then it is unlimited, but to most it is lovely porcelain full stop. With furiture it is more enigmatic and versatile in it's appreciation. There is also choice to what people like in a room fo furntire. Some wil love a table and a cabinet, everyone will like something. Furniture is endearing and acccesible and functional. I also collected many 19th century picture frames, the one with elbaorate gilt carving as they were so cheap. Not so much now, but they were really cheap about 2-3 years ago. </p><p><br /></p><p>The market is improving in bits and pieces. Books and picture frames, and other items are gaining appeal. Brown furniture if people really are painting over it and stripping it then it will one day be unique and rare and have great value. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In summary: </p><p>I went from Trading in Commodities in the Market to 18th century Porcelain and from there ended up appreciating Antique furniture and really most things that required great craftmanship and work with quality materials.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4300438, member: 22714"]I would love to learn how Barbara first cleans the new antique furniture additions. First I apologise for this overly long post. Skip to the summary at the end if you prefer. How I got into antiques was incidently the route someone mentioned as rare. I began by looking at just porcelain in the very beginning, I think as an investment, I am not sure how I ended up there and it was not any porcleian it was Chinese asian porcelain. I used to follow the markets closely and traded in oil and gold and equities and grew tired of the market as it became less logical. You can look at the Dow and Nasdaq, and S&P at the moment and wonder at their extreme heights when the rest of the world's industries have been decimated by Covid, airline, tourism, shipping, cruiselines etc etc and yet when we had a slight bubble in property in 2008 they called it the great depression. The Dow and S&P and other indexs are not grounded in reality. Imo We should have started a gentle bear market in 2017 and I always recall the argument between Fiat money system, and the origional Gold standard and people wanted to get rid of the Market and go back to the gold standard. So I wanting to take a break from it, I wanted to invest my money into something tangible, that i could appreciate. I began my first purchase with what i thought was a big chinese vase, it arrived and it was 2 inches high :) that was my first lesson. Images and size. I learned about Chinese Asian porcelain and over time began to aquire Chinese Asian porcelain.. Kangxi plates were still relatively cheap and accessible, transition ware was always super expensive but Yongzheng plates could still be bought for a few pounds and they have such a diverse range. From Kangxi revival to 18th century Mandarin which i really liked and Daoguang Famille rose mandarin was my favorite and then Canton export famille rose as something to sell. For some reason I really like Japanese Art the most, it was 1 very cheap, but not as available. I collected Satsuma and some the kaga-Kutani, and fukagawa particualry the 19th century fukagawa imari which is really outstanding, stunning detail and quality. Fukagawa for the agents for the imperial Palace. So as Asian art became a passion, I could not but appreciate other Porcelain styles, sevre, Dresden, Royal worcester and some the english artists like Harry Stinton. Then of course i need some rich Mahogany display cabinets to store and put all this beautiful blue and white porcelain. So i then attend antique auctions to get furniture for just that. Then of course i cannot but help notice how beautiful some of the furntiure is, and how cheap it is relative to its quality, and so i then get interested in Antique furntiture, then over time i began to put more value on furniture then i did on porcelain. I know a good bit about Porcelain but I am only learning about Antique furniture. I always find I have made a profit when i get a really beautiful piece of furniture which is not a feeling i get when I get 19th century Asian porcelain. I suppose when i get a lovely qianglong blue and white teapot, it's beauty overwhelms and is almost the same as when i get a lovley piece of furniture. Furniture is more dynamic, Porcelain is limited in it's appeal. To someone who appreciates it then it is unlimited, but to most it is lovely porcelain full stop. With furiture it is more enigmatic and versatile in it's appreciation. There is also choice to what people like in a room fo furntire. Some wil love a table and a cabinet, everyone will like something. Furniture is endearing and acccesible and functional. I also collected many 19th century picture frames, the one with elbaorate gilt carving as they were so cheap. Not so much now, but they were really cheap about 2-3 years ago. The market is improving in bits and pieces. Books and picture frames, and other items are gaining appeal. Brown furniture if people really are painting over it and stripping it then it will one day be unique and rare and have great value. In summary: I went from Trading in Commodities in the Market to 18th century Porcelain and from there ended up appreciating Antique furniture and really most things that required great craftmanship and work with quality materials.[/QUOTE]
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