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Message:: [QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 123595, member: 44"]From biographies on the internet about the Gray & Son Co., it seems the Wm. Gray started the Gray & Co carriage company in 1883. His son Robert carried on the business after his father died. Sometime in the late 1890s they started making auto bodies also like for Ford. They continued for some time making carriages, Ford auto bodies and farm equipment. In 1911 R. Gray merged the company with a Campbell resulting in a change of name to "William Gray-Sons-Campbell Limited." With your carriage carrying the name of only Gray & Son, "pre 1903" is probably close. Carriages built between 1883-1911 would only have the Gray & Son as name.<a href="http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/gray_robert_15E.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/gray_robert_15E.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/gray_robert_15E.html</a> I have no knowledge of carriages and if no one has any help for you on the forum, desperate_fun's advise of contacting a museum is probably your best bet. --- Susan Edit: Just looked at that bio of the Gray Company again. I missed the following on the first reading. "On 5 Jan. 1899 William Gray and Sons Company Limited was incorporated." To show my ignorance, would limited have been added to the name when it was incorporated??? If so, this would narrow the timeframe for your carriage to between 1899 and 1911 because Limited is on the sign.[/QUOTE]