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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mirana, post: 9766818, member: 79705&quot;]No, the patina is not fake. It&#039;s created. It is insanely easy to make green patina, chemically, on copper. They sell pre-made solutions for it, and you can <a href="https://barnabasgold.com/can-you-patina-copper-leaf/#:~:text=Tried%20and%20true%20methods%20to,patina%20forms%20green%20shade%20here)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://barnabasgold.com/can-you-patina-copper-leaf/#:~:text=Tried%20and%20true%20methods%20to,patina%20forms%20green%20shade%20here)" rel="nofollow">DIY</a> it. My favorite is vinegar with potato chips! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie51" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Lots of things have intentional, modern patinas from chemical reactions. The Statue of Liberty is a good example. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can patina bronze in different colors. You can create rust (a favorite of art forgers for nails on their paintings). We use these to make fake ancient or old objects for movies and TV on my jobs. It doesn&#039;t even take very long.</p><p><br /></p><p>This has been done for a loooong time on things for decorative looks, and to fool buyers. There are an extreme amount of forgeries of ancient objects which is why you were asked for provenance.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you believe your swords are real, you should not &quot;train&quot; with them. They would be very fragile. Forgeries, on the other hand...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This right here is a good example that you haven&#039;t spent much time studying real artifacts or handcrafted works and their processes. Many, many cultures made decorative and ceremonial artifacts out of gold or precious metals. Most were very thin, even. Hand crafted, as opposed to cast as yours is, has a different look entirely. I also see the gold dagger as clearly bring a more detailed, higher quality, and artistic than yours. It&#039;s not a judgement on your love for your father&#039;s sword. It&#039;s based on a handcrafted item in correct period style, versus a cast decorative item.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m trying to understand you here. You found a very modern painting by a living artist, who used a very famous Iranian dagger in his National Museum as his reference. But....you think he based it on a sword your father had before this painting was done? And in a gold color which your sword never was? That timeline doesn&#039;t make sense. Explain your thinking, because I&#039;m confused.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Oh, it honestly hurts my heart how much you are trying to make this real for your father. You clearly loved him. </p><p><br /></p><p>The experts are saying this because they&#039;re trying to warn you that you would be wasting your money for them to tell you what we and Reddit did. Your sword is a modern forgery or decorative object. It doesn&#039;t look anything like real objects, which you can easily find in museum collections.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I have a feeling that even if experts tell you this, you&#039;re never going to be satisfied. You&#039;re always going to hold out hope. I think your father just wanted you to enjoy his collection, as he did. And that&#039;s more than enough. Thank you for sharing his things with us.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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