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<p>[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 9766691, member: 8267"]The same applies to us, few of whom have extensive knowledge of archaeometallurgy. We have provided opinions based on what we can see in your photographs.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is no way to determine the authenticity of your objects without a metallurgical analysis to see if the composition matches examples known to be ancient (from documented excavations, for example). The analysis would need to be performed by someone with experience in archeological metals, and you will also need to find someone with appropriate knowledge to interpret the results of any analysis.</p><p><br /></p><p>Quoting myself from one of your previous posts:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, there are few institutions or companies that offer such analytical services in the United States, and it will be difficult to find people with expertise in ancient metallurgy of the middle east/central Asia. You might try contacting the graduate training programs in art and artifact conservation. I believe they sometimes accept privately owned objects as projects for their students, and/or they may be able to suggest other resources. These are the programs most likely to include archeological materials - </p><p><a href="https://artconservation.buffalostate.edu/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://artconservation.buffalostate.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://artconservation.buffalostate.edu/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.queensu.ca/art/art-conservation" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.queensu.ca/art/art-conservation" rel="nofollow">https://www.queensu.ca/art/art-conservation</a></p><p><a href="https://www.getty.edu/projects/ucla-getty-interdepartmental-program-conservation-cultural-heritage/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.getty.edu/projects/ucla-getty-interdepartmental-program-conservation-cultural-heritage/" rel="nofollow">https://www.getty.edu/projects/ucla-getty-interdepartmental-program-conservation-cultural-heritage/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>You could also look for museums with collections from the relevant regions. Don't ask them to authenticate your objects - few, if any, offer such services - but ask them if they can recommend any companies that could assist you.</p><p><br /></p><p>These are some other possibilities I have found online -</p><p><a href="https://redwoodarchaeometallurgy.com/about-us" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://redwoodarchaeometallurgy.com/about-us" rel="nofollow">https://redwoodarchaeometallurgy.com/about-us</a></p><p><a href="https://www.isas.illinois.edu/office_of_the_illinois_state_archaeologist/research/atam" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.isas.illinois.edu/office_of_the_illinois_state_archaeologist/research/atam" rel="nofollow">https://www.isas.illinois.edu/office_of_the_illinois_state_archaeologist/research/atam</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I cannot personally vouch for this company, but it specializes in a variety of archeological (and paleontological) antiquities. They say they do not offer authentication services, but I noticed a relevant warning on their website -</p><p><a href="https://timevaultgallery.com/ancient-near-eastern-luristan-swords-for-sale/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://timevaultgallery.com/ancient-near-eastern-luristan-swords-for-sale/" rel="nofollow">https://timevaultgallery.com/ancient-near-eastern-luristan-swords-for-sale/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>"WARNING: There is an increasing number of fake Near Eastern (Luristan) bronze weapons on the market. As fine quality intact, original specimens become more scarce and techniques have become more sophisticated to fake these weapons. We have personally handled numerous extremely well-done fakes with extremely convincing patinas. The degree to which the fakers have been able to replicate patina to disguise their work requires an expert examination by highly experienced individuals. It is common to find very reasonably priced weapons that are made up of part original and part modern components or wholly modern pieces displaying elaborate artificial patinas. All purchases should include from the dealer a written guarantee of authenticity with unconditional and lifetime return policies regarding such guarantee."</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 9766691, member: 8267"]The same applies to us, few of whom have extensive knowledge of archaeometallurgy. We have provided opinions based on what we can see in your photographs. There is no way to determine the authenticity of your objects without a metallurgical analysis to see if the composition matches examples known to be ancient (from documented excavations, for example). The analysis would need to be performed by someone with experience in archeological metals, and you will also need to find someone with appropriate knowledge to interpret the results of any analysis. Quoting myself from one of your previous posts: Unfortunately, there are few institutions or companies that offer such analytical services in the United States, and it will be difficult to find people with expertise in ancient metallurgy of the middle east/central Asia. You might try contacting the graduate training programs in art and artifact conservation. I believe they sometimes accept privately owned objects as projects for their students, and/or they may be able to suggest other resources. These are the programs most likely to include archeological materials - [URL]https://artconservation.buffalostate.edu/[/URL] [URL]https://www.queensu.ca/art/art-conservation[/URL] [URL]https://www.getty.edu/projects/ucla-getty-interdepartmental-program-conservation-cultural-heritage/[/URL] You could also look for museums with collections from the relevant regions. Don't ask them to authenticate your objects - few, if any, offer such services - but ask them if they can recommend any companies that could assist you. These are some other possibilities I have found online - [URL]https://redwoodarchaeometallurgy.com/about-us[/URL] [URL]https://www.isas.illinois.edu/office_of_the_illinois_state_archaeologist/research/atam[/URL] I cannot personally vouch for this company, but it specializes in a variety of archeological (and paleontological) antiquities. They say they do not offer authentication services, but I noticed a relevant warning on their website - [URL]https://timevaultgallery.com/ancient-near-eastern-luristan-swords-for-sale/[/URL] [I]"WARNING: There is an increasing number of fake Near Eastern (Luristan) bronze weapons on the market. As fine quality intact, original specimens become more scarce and techniques have become more sophisticated to fake these weapons. We have personally handled numerous extremely well-done fakes with extremely convincing patinas. The degree to which the fakers have been able to replicate patina to disguise their work requires an expert examination by highly experienced individuals. It is common to find very reasonably priced weapons that are made up of part original and part modern components or wholly modern pieces displaying elaborate artificial patinas. All purchases should include from the dealer a written guarantee of authenticity with unconditional and lifetime return policies regarding such guarantee."[/I][/QUOTE]
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