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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Chris Marshall, post: 2169410, member: 206&quot;]Well, not really. Your guess is off a few years too early in both directions. The &quot;cheap export stuff&quot; is widely correct though. Problem here is that we have a bunch of genuine ring/donut marks which were created for one specific purpose. Then we have (also old) examples where the producer &#039;customized&#039; his own marks to look like the previous group (implying international trade). Finally we have the modern day reproduction crud, but those goods would normally prefer to copy &quot;valuable&quot; items.</p><p><br /></p><p>Even if the historic context of their use is actually pretty straight forward, it would require a huge wall of text to clarify the precise background situations in which these were to be applied. Most readers here know that people often only want to understand what they like, meaning that a lot is simply ignored. Would you read a paragraph on export tax rates? Gotcha. And that would be fatal in this case; the whole context is a vital part of the assessment.</p><p><br /></p><p>That aside, I am astonished to see how many of you eyed the &quot;Edme Samson&quot; lure. Think about it: at the time &quot;Germany&quot; in that form came into existence it was not Edme Samson but his son Emile, a short time later the Bloch family. And Emile had long thrown the towel before these circle/donut marks came into being. Go figure.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just to add something more constructive: these items could indeed have been made in Germany and then been decorated elsewhere. France, Italy, just to keep things more or less local. Chances of finding out who produced them originally? Zero, as these ring/donut marks were not producer-specific.</p><p><br /></p><p>Looks like I&#039;m the party pooper again.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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