Picture, 19th century?

Her hood/veil looked like a nuns. White under with black above. It's just my 2 cents!

 

But is there still a red color?
And the red from the Virgin Mary seems to be))

 

Her veil on one side is white, with another bluish?
Bluish veil and red color as I know from the Virgin Mary))

But maybe I'm wrong))

 

I suppose that the picture was probably written in the 17th or 18th century, in the middle or in the second half of the 19th century it was restored.

The painting depicts the Virgin Mary in prayer.

But maybe I'm wrong.

 

Maybe in fact you are right. I am almost agreeing. Her face does look as if it is a depiction of the Virgin Mary, The best thing to do is have a curator of a museum or an art gallery look at it (if possible) whatever you do, please preserve the painting as it is & ensure it does not get damaged!

 

I have thought logically.
Perhaps I am mistaken))

 

Its clearly a copy - though not made directly from the original - of Sassoferrato's "Mater Dolorosa".

http://www.wikigallery.org/wiki/pai...nna-at-prayer-(Knows-as-the-'Mater-Dolorosa')
https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/402614/the-mater-dolorosa

 

Do you think this is a copy of the picture))?

How is it not very similar?
Possibly it is just same motive of the praying Madonna?

I thought that such plot is rather widespread among religious painting))

 

https://www.google.ru/search?q=mate...CZoKHShrAugQ_AUIBigB&biw=1920&bih=947#imgrc=_

Perhaps this is precisely this religious plot (and not a copy of this particular picture)?

 

Though perhaps you are right)).

As has read on the Internet, the picture specified by you too is the copy, painted from even some earlier picture))

Well perhaps yes, such plot among religious painting was repeatedly copied. Where exactly there is an original, it is difficult to establish))

Thank you for finding the story!

 

Many painters painted the Mater Dolorosa (Mother Mary of Sorrows).
There is a certain iconography, the manner in which a Mater Dolorosa is painted, to make her recognizable to the faithful. This may not be a copy of another Mater Dolorosa, but it is likely the painter was following the general rules of how to paint a Mater Dolorosa.

By the way, most definitely no nun. Neckline too low, red sleeves, nicely flowing drape of the fabric.

 

Deterioration of a painting doesn't always have to do with age. I have a painting from the late 1800's, early 1900's that has similar deterioration. Rabbit skin glue was used to coat the canvas. Rabbit skin glue is very susceptible to damp conditions because it is a natural based protein. It can become soft again if it's exposed to water or high humidity. It's one of the reasons some paintings crackle more than others. Also, the "fat over lean" issue which has to do with the quantity of oil in the layers of paint. The quality of linseed oil and turpentine can also cause damage as the painting expands and contracts with weather conditions.

I would have this looked at by an expert. It's difficult to tell just from photographs.

 

So a canvas on which it is pasted a picture how here have written to me, the middle - the second half of the 19th century?

The picture has to be at least more senior than the second half of the 19th century it turns out?

Both textures of a canvas and color different. That canvas on which the picture is painted has other texture and yellowish-greenish color. And the back canvas has gray color.

 

And on craquelure is really difficult to judge the age pictures (except in the laboratory).

I saw pictures as 100 years old with craquelure. And the age of 200 years without a noticeable craquelure.

 

though this picture looks in this parameter rather old))

 

If it's a mid 19th century painting, it could have been relined in the late 19th century but it is difficult to tell from photographs. That's why I suggested you take to an expert.

 

Well usually if to determine the age according to the photo, dating on style of painting))

The art critic how I have understood is for this purpose necessary))?

In Maria's image there are traces of fashion of the 18th century (rather white face, rosy cheeks and a chin?)

But perhaps I am mistaken))

 

I am not an expert on this kind of painting, but I have seen many pictures painted in this style in convents and monasteries here in The Netherlands, Belgium and Germany, they were 18th century. I always call it the convent style, but that is just me.
I don't know if the style was popular during the same period in your area. Do you have a convent or monastery you can visit to see? Or maybe a museum with religious art?

 

I live in Russia)).

The picture was taken out of Europe.
But some icons of the Russian 18th century were written in a similar style (rosy cheeks, a relatively white face, scarlet lips)

 

It could have been painted in my part of the world then. I live in The Netherlands.
If it is from around here, I would guess the southern part of the country, Belgium, or the Rhineland part of Germany. These three areas have closely related art forms.
Could it have come to Russia during the Russian occupation of Germany during/after WWII?