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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 332737, member: 2844&quot;]Empiricism is also a philosophy, even though it has very few followers nowadays. </p><p>No one needs empirical proof of effectiveness of philosophy or of religion, that is not the point of either. </p><p><br /></p><p>No one said anything about ancient wisdom.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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