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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Antique shopper, post: 4322570, member: 24147&quot;]I agree, it’s not- it looks like a stamp. And very old van cleef was done by hand-&nbsp; Which isn’t crisp either.&nbsp; So saying it isn’t crisp isn’t the type of piece this is.&nbsp; It’s not from the modern time where he made smooth markers marks.</p><p><br /></p><p>it’s clearly from a time where marker marks were not done so well.&nbsp; I don’t know what it is.&nbsp; It can be anything… but I was hoping people had seen it before.</p><p><br /></p><p>no worries.&nbsp; I did reach out to van cleef&nbsp; to see if I can send it in for cleaning.&nbsp; If it’s their piece they will clean it… if not they will send it back without cleaning it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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