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<p>[QUOTE="IvaPan, post: 9744855, member: 78949"]Hi [USER=81513]@Mellie[/USER],</p><p><br /></p><p>Sorry for not responding earlier, I can help you.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, Figtree is right (as usual), it is Brothers Shemarin samovar. I found some information in Russian about them - there were 5 brothers in the business, they opened a workshop in Tula in 1887, when one of the brothers, Vladimir, married the widow of the weaponry maker Gudkov and she brought the workshop as her dowry. Tula is mostly known as weaponry making town since the times of Peter i. Also samovars, yes, but weaponry mostly.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1899 the brothers opened their own company "Торговый Дом Бр.Шемариных" (maybe I am not precise here as they had their own workshop before but opened a factory plus retail, a bigger business, I don't know how to translate "Торговый Дом" - holding? Inc.?), built a bigger factory and enlarged the business.</p><p><br /></p><p>They were equal to Batashev's quality and prestige - actually second to them by production volume and number of employees. They knew Nikolay II and supplied the Persian court, participated in Paris exhibition in 1899 (received a silver medal there) and had many awards from exhibitions. Before WW1 they employed more than 700 people in their business.</p><p><br /></p><p>So basically the samovar can be dated between 1899 and 1914 (during WWI it stopped working). Their samovars were made of different materials like copper and brass, and were of 100 different types. No mention about silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1918 the factory was nationalized and was named "Lenin Factory" and stopped working ten years after that. .</p><p><br /></p><p>Their samovars are quite expensive in Russia now - in Meshok (the "Russian ebay") it costs between 10000 and 50000 Rubles (no info about condiion or missing parts...) which is a lot for Russia. So I can't agree with Komo's appraisal <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>One more detail on dating - traditionally when Shemarin received a medal or award, they marked with it all their consequently produced samovars, so there are samovars with 10 or more medals engraved on them. Here I see three medals engraved so the production date must be closer to 1899 than to 1914.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IvaPan, post: 9744855, member: 78949"]Hi [USER=81513]@Mellie[/USER], Sorry for not responding earlier, I can help you. Yes, Figtree is right (as usual), it is Brothers Shemarin samovar. I found some information in Russian about them - there were 5 brothers in the business, they opened a workshop in Tula in 1887, when one of the brothers, Vladimir, married the widow of the weaponry maker Gudkov and she brought the workshop as her dowry. Tula is mostly known as weaponry making town since the times of Peter i. Also samovars, yes, but weaponry mostly. In 1899 the brothers opened their own company "Торговый Дом Бр.Шемариных" (maybe I am not precise here as they had their own workshop before but opened a factory plus retail, a bigger business, I don't know how to translate "Торговый Дом" - holding? Inc.?), built a bigger factory and enlarged the business. They were equal to Batashev's quality and prestige - actually second to them by production volume and number of employees. They knew Nikolay II and supplied the Persian court, participated in Paris exhibition in 1899 (received a silver medal there) and had many awards from exhibitions. Before WW1 they employed more than 700 people in their business. So basically the samovar can be dated between 1899 and 1914 (during WWI it stopped working). Their samovars were made of different materials like copper and brass, and were of 100 different types. No mention about silver. In 1918 the factory was nationalized and was named "Lenin Factory" and stopped working ten years after that. . Their samovars are quite expensive in Russia now - in Meshok (the "Russian ebay") it costs between 10000 and 50000 Rubles (no info about condiion or missing parts...) which is a lot for Russia. So I can't agree with Komo's appraisal :) One more detail on dating - traditionally when Shemarin received a medal or award, they marked with it all their consequently produced samovars, so there are samovars with 10 or more medals engraved on them. Here I see three medals engraved so the production date must be closer to 1899 than to 1914.[/QUOTE]
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