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<p>[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 1834521, member: 8267"]The fashions shown in the tapestry are definitely 15th century, not 16th. Tudor men's shoes are very different. In the early part of the century high class men wore very wide-toed shoes. During the 2nd half of the 16th c. shoes were less extreme in either direction.</p><p><br /></p><p>It bothers me that the script is so illegible. Tapestries would typically employ the same script used in formal calligraphy of the period. For the 15th century, this would be black letter / Gothic script, as illustrated in this French tapestry from the 1480s:</p><p><img src="https://www.wga.hu/art/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/01f_1480.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><a href="https://www.wga.hu/html_m/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/index.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.wga.hu/html_m/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.wga.hu/html_m/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/index.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Or (less likely) the more cursive "Littera Bastarda" / Batarde:</p><p><img src="http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/graphics/text/grabs/charlemagne2a.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am very skeptical about an actual 15th century tapestry being in such good condition. The weaving structure does appear correct for a traditional handwoven tapestry, however. I would be more inclined to believe it is a later reproduction, perhaps early 20th century (Arts and Crafts period). The problematic script may be a result of whoever made it not understanding genuine medieval writing.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=14488]@pcpower[/USER] - how did you identify the fibers used? What country did you find it in?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="2manybooks, post: 1834521, member: 8267"]The fashions shown in the tapestry are definitely 15th century, not 16th. Tudor men's shoes are very different. In the early part of the century high class men wore very wide-toed shoes. During the 2nd half of the 16th c. shoes were less extreme in either direction. It bothers me that the script is so illegible. Tapestries would typically employ the same script used in formal calligraphy of the period. For the 15th century, this would be black letter / Gothic script, as illustrated in this French tapestry from the 1480s: [IMG]https://www.wga.hu/art/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/01f_1480.jpg[/IMG] [URL]https://www.wga.hu/html_m/zzdeco/2tapestr/1/index.html[/URL] Or (less likely) the more cursive "Littera Bastarda" / Batarde: [IMG]http://medievalwriting.50megs.com/graphics/text/grabs/charlemagne2a.jpg[/IMG] I am very skeptical about an actual 15th century tapestry being in such good condition. The weaving structure does appear correct for a traditional handwoven tapestry, however. I would be more inclined to believe it is a later reproduction, perhaps early 20th century (Arts and Crafts period). The problematic script may be a result of whoever made it not understanding genuine medieval writing. [USER=14488]@pcpower[/USER] - how did you identify the fibers used? What country did you find it in?[/QUOTE]
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