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Message:: [QUOTE="all_fakes, post: 4382355, member: 55"]Adding a general note on contemporary export carvings, from Indonesia and elsewhere: such things can indeed be "old" or "in the family for 30 years" (aside from mistakes or incorrect memories) because such carvings have been made for many years; the earliest I know of were made in the 1970s and are still being made today, in exactly the same styles. And I'm sure there are even older examples.In correspondence I've sometimes been told that an item must be genuine because "Grandma had it since 1980."Errors aside, there is no reason Grandma couldn't have bought an Indonesian export carving in 1980....in a style that is still being made today.How often have we heard "from an old estate" or "from a 50-year collection" or "from a collector of ethnographic antiques?" That sort of provenance just doesn't mean much.[/QUOTE]