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<p>[QUOTE="all_fakes, post: 440577, member: 55"]Thanks for the link.</p><p> There is one interesting lesson in one of the listings. The link doesn't open for me on this PC, so I'm going by memory; but one item is a bentwood box, painted in a NW Coast Native style, starting at $500, estimate $1000-$1500.</p><p> The lesson is not limited to Native items; but it illustrates what happens when an auction-house that does not specialize in Native items takes items on consignment from people who may - or may not - know anything about them.</p><p>In the mid 1960s and up to the early 1980s (I could be wrong about the exact dates) there was a non-native lady who responded to the need for museum gift-shops to have inexpensive native-style items to sell. Her name escapes me at the moment; but she designed a line of bentwood boxes and had them manufactured; they were widely sold in the museum shops, but were not consigned to mainstream stores. As a result, they are not widely known.</p><p>Native bentwood boxes are painstakingly hand-made, using a tricky kerfing method to bend a straight board into a four-sided box; then hand-painted or carved, and a bottom and perhaps a top added.</p><p> The boxes she designed were made in the same way, but by machine; and the designs were printed on the board, not hand-painted. And they are much smaller than most native boxes. Her designs are good, but not up to the best native standards. They are good enough that I'd have to have the auction item in hand to be 100% sure; but I've seen enough of these that I'm 99% sure from the photo. I've got two of her smaller boxes, they are fun items to put pens into on a desktop.</p><p>The kicker is that the original prices were $5 - $20 depending on size; and current values might reach $50 - $100 if not misrepresented as real Native bentwood boxes.</p><p>Just an illustration that there is no substitute for experience, and for learning from others, and for being very wary about trusting an auction description.</p><p>And I wouldn't be surprised if this item sells for a very good price; it only takes two bidders who are unaware of the real origin of the item.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="all_fakes, post: 440577, member: 55"]Thanks for the link. There is one interesting lesson in one of the listings. The link doesn't open for me on this PC, so I'm going by memory; but one item is a bentwood box, painted in a NW Coast Native style, starting at $500, estimate $1000-$1500. The lesson is not limited to Native items; but it illustrates what happens when an auction-house that does not specialize in Native items takes items on consignment from people who may - or may not - know anything about them. In the mid 1960s and up to the early 1980s (I could be wrong about the exact dates) there was a non-native lady who responded to the need for museum gift-shops to have inexpensive native-style items to sell. Her name escapes me at the moment; but she designed a line of bentwood boxes and had them manufactured; they were widely sold in the museum shops, but were not consigned to mainstream stores. As a result, they are not widely known. Native bentwood boxes are painstakingly hand-made, using a tricky kerfing method to bend a straight board into a four-sided box; then hand-painted or carved, and a bottom and perhaps a top added. The boxes she designed were made in the same way, but by machine; and the designs were printed on the board, not hand-painted. And they are much smaller than most native boxes. Her designs are good, but not up to the best native standards. They are good enough that I'd have to have the auction item in hand to be 100% sure; but I've seen enough of these that I'm 99% sure from the photo. I've got two of her smaller boxes, they are fun items to put pens into on a desktop. The kicker is that the original prices were $5 - $20 depending on size; and current values might reach $50 - $100 if not misrepresented as real Native bentwood boxes. Just an illustration that there is no substitute for experience, and for learning from others, and for being very wary about trusting an auction description. And I wouldn't be surprised if this item sells for a very good price; it only takes two bidders who are unaware of the real origin of the item.[/QUOTE]
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