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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bluumz, post: 91140, member: 649&quot;]I&#039;ve just come across the fact that Scottish clans often use the &quot;strap and buckle&quot; in their crests. Maybe it&#039;s a clan crest.</p><p>From electricscotland.com:</p><p>&quot;The strap-and-buckle is NOT a &quot;Garter&quot;, and it should NEVER be shown coloured blue with gold buckle and edgings like the insignium of the Order of the Garter. Crest Badges are <i>for wear</i> by the clansmen, and as they are made of silver or white metal they should never be illustrated on paper or other materials in colour, other than white or silver. Line drawings should be printed in monochrome.&quot;</p><p>Time to do more research...</p><p>Editing to add: Hmm, I can&#039;t find any Scottish clan crests that use&nbsp; &quot;Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense&quot;. That does seem to point toward the Order of the Garter.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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