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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bluumz, post: 91137, member: 649&quot;]Yes, I agree that these must have been specially ordered... but I&#039;ve been pouring over the list of members and haven&#039;t yet come across someone with this particular design in their coat of arms/crest. When someone is inducted into the Order, they then redesign their crest to include the garter. I have found designs with swans and designs with bishop&#039;s mitres (ie: for the prelate), but not a design with both.</p><p><br /></p><p>Unfortunately, the Order of the Garter doesn&#039;t seen to have it&#039;s own website, LOL, or I&#039;d just ask them![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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