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<p>[QUOTE="6rivets, post: 3632, member: 24"]<i>I was quick to say mid 1800s perhaps 1870 would have been or accurate.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>But that's my point. You say shawls were popular then, when in fact the movement toward the bustle, starting in around 1870, was the death-knell for shawls, and they were already fading in popularity by that date. </p><p><br /></p><p>If they're not made in Europe, they're not Kashmir shawls; they're paisleys.</p><p><br /></p><p>The bodies of Kashmir shawls were occasionally pieced, but they weren't patchwork; the body was woven in two pieces to make a larger shawl, and then those and the border pieces were joined. I know of no examples of <i>intentionally </i>crazy-pieced Kashmir shawls. Maybe one could be cobbled together out of intact scraps of other shawls, but that's a different story, like saying American woven coverlets were made in many odd pieces and then joined together.</p><p><br /></p><p>I know I sound like I'm nitpicking here, but I do have a point: you're making assertions about history, construction and materials that a specialist would not. And that's what makes me doubt your unequivocal statement that this is machine-woven. It might be, but the rest of what you've said does not generate confidence.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="6rivets, post: 3632, member: 24"][I]I was quick to say mid 1800s perhaps 1870 would have been or accurate.[/I] But that's my point. You say shawls were popular then, when in fact the movement toward the bustle, starting in around 1870, was the death-knell for shawls, and they were already fading in popularity by that date. If they're not made in Europe, they're not Kashmir shawls; they're paisleys. The bodies of Kashmir shawls were occasionally pieced, but they weren't patchwork; the body was woven in two pieces to make a larger shawl, and then those and the border pieces were joined. I know of no examples of [I]intentionally [/I]crazy-pieced Kashmir shawls. Maybe one could be cobbled together out of intact scraps of other shawls, but that's a different story, like saying American woven coverlets were made in many odd pieces and then joined together. I know I sound like I'm nitpicking here, but I do have a point: you're making assertions about history, construction and materials that a specialist would not. And that's what makes me doubt your unequivocal statement that this is machine-woven. It might be, but the rest of what you've said does not generate confidence.[/QUOTE]
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