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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 9509938, member: 2844&quot;]Now, back to Judas, Peter, the &quot;stabbing&quot; knife and the &quot;the black guy&quot;.</p><p>This is the relevant detail of the heavily restored fresco:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]450649[/ATTACH]</p><p>The scene is the same as on the oil painting: Judas has a firm grasp on his bag, the other hand reaching for the bread. Peter is reaching over to John, and his right hand is holding the knife, symbolic of what was to happen at Gethsemane.</p><p>There is still no black guy grabbing anyone&#039;s hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>What can be confusing is that Peter&#039;s hand (of the right hand holding the knife) is bent back, putting his wrist away from the light source.</p><p>The source of light in both fresco and oil painting is Jesus, for obvious symbolic reasons.</p><p>Peter&#039;s wrist is behind Judas&#039; back, so it is overshadowed by Judas. So a wrist in the shadow, no black hand, and no black guy attached to the non-existent hand.</p><p>No stabbing motion either. With Peter&#039;s hand in this position, the only person he could possibly hurt is himself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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