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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 4339215, member: 111"]For a bit of clarity, pounce and sand are not the same, pounce was used to prepare vellum or parchment for ink as well as to blot, and fine sand was often used for blotting - a pounce pot or box might also have been called a sander, sandbox, sand shaker, etc., and could have been used for either. Unfortunately, it's become common practice to proclaim old single shakers as a pounce pots, regardless of their true original purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Salt and pepper shakers, earlier called dredgers, casters or muffineers (muffineers originally the smaller shakers - later catalogs, etc. call the larger shakers muffineers), most certainly existed before the early 20th century, and were common through the 18th century, intended for various granular and powdered condiments. The OP's shakers date no earlier than 1886, and are quite possibly "early 1900s", and though they're fairly tall, it's because of the figural swan pedestals, the size of the functional part would be more in line with a salt or pepper shaker/caster/muffineer than a sugar shaker/caster/muffineer, which would typically be larger. The set I showed above, by the same maker, with the shaker of similar size and form, is clearly intended for salt and pepper since one is an open salt. I don't have time at the moment, but can post some pertinent examples, clips, ads, etc. from throughout the 19th century when I get a chance - can share these pieces from the V&A now:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O103782/caster-christopher-canner/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O103782/caster-christopher-canner/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O103782/caster-christopher-canner/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358024[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O78458/sugar-caster-delmestre-john/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O78458/sugar-caster-delmestre-john/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O78458/sugar-caster-delmestre-john/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358026[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104547/caster-peter-and-ann/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104547/caster-peter-and-ann/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104547/caster-peter-and-ann/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358025[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O67806/pair-of-muffineers-unknown/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O67806/pair-of-muffineers-unknown/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O67806/pair-of-muffineers-unknown/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358023[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104080/the-warwick-cruet-frame-cruet-frame-peaston-robert/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104080/the-warwick-cruet-frame-cruet-frame-peaston-robert/" rel="nofollow">https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104080/the-warwick-cruet-frame-cruet-frame-peaston-robert/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358022[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 4339215, member: 111"]For a bit of clarity, pounce and sand are not the same, pounce was used to prepare vellum or parchment for ink as well as to blot, and fine sand was often used for blotting - a pounce pot or box might also have been called a sander, sandbox, sand shaker, etc., and could have been used for either. Unfortunately, it's become common practice to proclaim old single shakers as a pounce pots, regardless of their true original purpose. Salt and pepper shakers, earlier called dredgers, casters or muffineers (muffineers originally the smaller shakers - later catalogs, etc. call the larger shakers muffineers), most certainly existed before the early 20th century, and were common through the 18th century, intended for various granular and powdered condiments. The OP's shakers date no earlier than 1886, and are quite possibly "early 1900s", and though they're fairly tall, it's because of the figural swan pedestals, the size of the functional part would be more in line with a salt or pepper shaker/caster/muffineer than a sugar shaker/caster/muffineer, which would typically be larger. The set I showed above, by the same maker, with the shaker of similar size and form, is clearly intended for salt and pepper since one is an open salt. I don't have time at the moment, but can post some pertinent examples, clips, ads, etc. from throughout the 19th century when I get a chance - can share these pieces from the V&A now: [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O103782/caster-christopher-canner/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]358024[/ATTACH] [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O78458/sugar-caster-delmestre-john/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]358026[/ATTACH] [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104547/caster-peter-and-ann/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]358025[/ATTACH] [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O67806/pair-of-muffineers-unknown/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]358023[/ATTACH] [URL]https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104080/the-warwick-cruet-frame-cruet-frame-peaston-robert/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]358022[/ATTACH] ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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