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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jivvy, post: 838430, member: 8184&quot;]I am still on the Valenciennes train. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I found a piece of reportedly machine-made Valenciennes at Maas museum. </p><p><a href="https://collection.maas.museum/object/184545" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collection.maas.museum/object/184545" rel="nofollow">https://collection.maas.museum/object/184545</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t know if all machine made pieces have a gimp thread around the edge, but this one appears to.&nbsp; Which the OP&#039;s does not. As far as I can tell. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, I&#039;m (currently) sticking with handmade Valenciennes. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie58" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]194878[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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