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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jivvy, post: 838115, member: 8184&quot;]That thought ran across my mind as well, but I haven&#039;t found any credible sources for pics of machine made Valenciennes and I don&#039;t have the knowledge to identify it without such.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think [USER=56]@moreotherstuff[/USER] may be on to something with the show-us-what-you&#039;ve-learned/sampler&quot; idea.&nbsp; One of the things that made me think &quot;maybe machine&quot; is that, the &quot;twists&quot; of the ring pairs are sometimes pretty sloppy (to my eye, but I am not a lace maker).&nbsp; Also, there are parts of the mesh I originally thought were bridges, but re-examination suggests no, the mesh got away from the lace maker. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie58" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]194782[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I hear ya. This forum made me go digging for my lace books early on and it involved really heavy boxes. I now have a small collection of books that live on the file cabinet directly behind my computer chair - I just have to swivel. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie99" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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