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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 10074263, member: 2844"]Different people always have different ways of naming or describing things. And a family's view on tradition may be 'coloured'.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie75" alt=":playful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>John, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/25517976" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/25517976" rel="nofollow">Bishop of Glasgow</a> in 1471 was the treasurer of King James III. He described Tartans in the 1470s, saying, “Halve ane elne of doble Tartane to lyne ridin collars to her lade the Quene.” </i></p><p><a href="https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/" rel="nofollow">https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Old tartans were often in subdued colours, but not always, as is evident below.</p><p>Sometimes we get the impression that old clothes were much more drab than ours, but that is usually due to aging and the conditions they were kept in. Bright colours can be achieved by traditional plant-based means even here in Europe, I have seen the process and results at countless craft fairs etc.</p><p><br /></p><p><i><a href="https://iranicaonline.org/articles/diodorus-siculus" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://iranicaonline.org/articles/diodorus-siculus" rel="nofollow">Diodorus Siculus</a> was a Greek historian who made mention of Celtic dress in 100 BC, providing early insight into the history of tartans. Diodorus called the pattern “<u>brightly colored</u> and embroidered … checkered in design, with the separate checks close together.” </i></p><p>(underlined bit by yours truly)</p><p><a href="https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/" rel="nofollow">https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The original Glen Affric tartan, found in a peat bog and dated between 1500-1600. Here it is photographed on top of a reconstruction of the very same tartan:</p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>[ATTACH=full]505683[/ATTACH]</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>[ATTACH=full]505684[/ATTACH] </i></p><p>Laird of Grant’s Piper, William Cumming, by Richard Waitt, 1714<i>.</i></p><p><a href="https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2019/05/26/tartan-romance/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2019/05/26/tartan-romance/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2019/05/26/tartan-romance/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]505685[/ATTACH]</p><p>Archibald of Monymusk, 1715[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 10074263, member: 2844"]Different people always have different ways of naming or describing things. And a family's view on tradition may be 'coloured'.:playful: [I]John, [URL='https://www.jstor.org/stable/25517976']Bishop of Glasgow[/URL] in 1471 was the treasurer of King James III. He described Tartans in the 1470s, saying, “Halve ane elne of doble Tartane to lyne ridin collars to her lade the Quene.” [/I] [URL]https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/[/URL] Old tartans were often in subdued colours, but not always, as is evident below. Sometimes we get the impression that old clothes were much more drab than ours, but that is usually due to aging and the conditions they were kept in. Bright colours can be achieved by traditional plant-based means even here in Europe, I have seen the process and results at countless craft fairs etc. [I][URL='https://iranicaonline.org/articles/diodorus-siculus']Diodorus Siculus[/URL] was a Greek historian who made mention of Celtic dress in 100 BC, providing early insight into the history of tartans. Diodorus called the pattern “[U]brightly colored[/U] and embroidered … checkered in design, with the separate checks close together.” [/I] (underlined bit by yours truly) [URL]https://www.oldest.org/culture/tartans/[/URL] The original Glen Affric tartan, found in a peat bog and dated between 1500-1600. Here it is photographed on top of a reconstruction of the very same tartan: [I] [ATTACH=full]505683[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]505684[/ATTACH] [/I] Laird of Grant’s Piper, William Cumming, by Richard Waitt, 1714[I].[/I] [URL]https://blog.nms.ac.uk/2019/05/26/tartan-romance/[/URL] [ATTACH=full]505685[/ATTACH] Archibald of Monymusk, 1715[/QUOTE]
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