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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 5074475, member: 2844"]Kris is fine, it is the Dutch spelling, which is still used in some international circles.</p><p>Keris is the Indonesian spelling.</p><p>You may remember from your days in Indonesia that there is often a slight hesitation in the first syllable of a word when pronouncing it, the 'hidden e'.</p><p>So k'ris, which the Dutch heard as kris, but the Indonesians wanted the ' to be present in the spelling.</p><p>Not all Indonesians pronounce it with a 'hidden e', some pronounce it like the e in personal.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back to the hilts.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>The first one it the handle of a sirih crusher or betel nut crusher. It is very charming. These handles are often carved as funny caricatures, real folk art.</p><p>It could be Javanese, but sirih crushers are not my area of expertise. I know the most beautiful ones are made in Lombok, but they are usually more intricate, with one man carrying another, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second one is a beautiful antique keris hilt from East Java. It represents Nara Singa (Narasimba), a Vishnu reincarnation with a lion head. Nara Singa protects in times of need, and is known as the great protector.</p><p>The lower part of the hilt would have had a Madurese style hilt cup, a straight sided one that looks like a very small drinking cup. It is late here, I'll see if I have a photo of one of my Madurese hilt cups.</p><p>East Java has influences from both Madura and Bali, together with their very own mix of cultures.</p><p>Could we see the back please?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 5074475, member: 2844"]Kris is fine, it is the Dutch spelling, which is still used in some international circles. Keris is the Indonesian spelling. You may remember from your days in Indonesia that there is often a slight hesitation in the first syllable of a word when pronouncing it, the 'hidden e'. So k'ris, which the Dutch heard as kris, but the Indonesians wanted the ' to be present in the spelling. Not all Indonesians pronounce it with a 'hidden e', some pronounce it like the e in personal. Back to the hilts.;) The first one it the handle of a sirih crusher or betel nut crusher. It is very charming. These handles are often carved as funny caricatures, real folk art. It could be Javanese, but sirih crushers are not my area of expertise. I know the most beautiful ones are made in Lombok, but they are usually more intricate, with one man carrying another, etc. The second one is a beautiful antique keris hilt from East Java. It represents Nara Singa (Narasimba), a Vishnu reincarnation with a lion head. Nara Singa protects in times of need, and is known as the great protector. The lower part of the hilt would have had a Madurese style hilt cup, a straight sided one that looks like a very small drinking cup. It is late here, I'll see if I have a photo of one of my Madurese hilt cups. East Java has influences from both Madura and Bali, together with their very own mix of cultures. Could we see the back please?[/QUOTE]
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