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<p>[QUOTE="Bev aka thelmasstuff, post: 343, member: 23"]<font size="4"><b>Hope you all don't mind reading LONG emails. Here is the correspondence I first sent to the Mod and then emailed directly to Ebay on his recommendation.</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Attached is a message I sent to one of the Lithium Mods and his reply. </p><p>I am hoping this matter reaches the attention of someone in charge who can at least take it in the honest spirit that it is written. I value my anonymity on the Boards to protect my family from potential lurkers, but am sure the Ebay Admin people know who we all are. </p><p>The Boards used to be a friendly place. Posters might disagree, but it wasn't nasty. This one person has in essence ruined the enjoyment for all of us and we have been accused of "ganging up" on him. I don't personally know most of the other posters. I know a couple, who have now left, who were well-respected authors of guide books. They got sick of it and it's too bad. </p><p>There are people who inherit or buy items that they know nothing about. Most of us try to help them learn what their item is and how to properly care for it to retain or even increase its value. Only Deep Sea Shadow takes some kind of pleasure in continually giving bad advice and no one else is allowed to correct him. Maybe it doesn't affect you, but the person who reads these posts has no idea that using some of these procedures will irreparably harm their antique. Those of us who love antiques do not want to see them destroyed. </p><p>Additionally, DSS continues to be insulting in a very subtle manner and somehow you don't seem to hold him to the strict rules you place on the rest of us. It's appalling. We all know that in spite of all the other sites that have popped up, Ebay continues to be the main online sales venue. You need to take some responsibility for this. </p><p>Thank you for your attention. </p><p>thelmasstuff </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>thelmasstuff wrote:</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm guessing this email will be given the same answer - there is no policy against people giving incorrect information. </p><p><br /></p><p>However, the one person who is deliberately giving BAD information, and I did say DELIBERATELY, has been stirring up the Antique Board for a couple of years. Many of us who are actual antique dealers who have good reputations are being disciplined, yet this poster continues to agitate. I thought one of Ebay's policies was to deter posters from causing trouble? Why can't you enforce that policy? If numerous users point to the same trouble spot and you continue to ignore it, what are we to think? Selective enforcement of policies. You know who we all are in real life. You have my permission to contact anyone in my town to ask if I'm a reputable person. I'm a Past President of my Rotary Club and the local Chamber of Commerce. My husband is a Selectman. We are public figures and would not do anything to jeopardize our relationship in the community. I am a truthful person and I'm telling you that you should find a way to ban Deep Sea Shadow and bring the boards back to being friendly places where there can be a positive exchange of ideas.</p><p><br /></p><p>Today is May 22, 2014. I have bitterly complained many times before. Lately, I've just stayed off the boards because it's too frustrating to try and give someone good, helpful information only to see one poster, Deep Sea Shadow, come along and give them bad information and new people take it as true. We know from his previous posts that he is doing it to be spiteful. He has said as much in the past. I wish I'd saved all those posts. He's laughing at the whole process because he can be anonymous and say what he wants. </p><p><br /></p><p>I wish at least one person who took his bad advice on how to care for an antique would come back to complain. That would validate our concerns. One time posters probably don't realize they could do that. This isn't a social media venue. This is a venue which purports to give people an opportunity to get information about their items. Some are intrinsically valuable and some are not, but the owners deserve fair and decent answers. They don't deserve to be treated like pawns in someone's evil game. </p><p><br /></p><p>My parents had an antique store and I've worked in the business since I helped them as a child. I'm not new to this and I hate to see people given very bad information just for one sick person's entertainment, and that's all it is. After two years of experts telling him he's wrong, DSS should have learned something. The fact that he persists and makes snide comments about everyone else proves that he is flaunting his ability to get away with it because he couches his insults in vagueness that, if you understand his point of view, would be obvious.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please, we are all begging you, do something about this situation. You've already lost a lot of REAL antique experts - people who have written books and who are sought out in the real world for their expertise - due to his machinations and your support of him. It's detrimental to Ebay. All we want is for the rules to be applied fairly. </p><p><br /></p><p>thelmasstuff</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Hi thelmasstuff,</p><p><br /></p><p>As moderators, we have no access to community members personal info, so we don't know who anyone is beyond what personal info any given user has posted on the boards. As you may be aware, we don't work for eBay, we work for Lithium. We do our utmost best to enforce the rules fairly and accurately. I'm sorry if you feel that we aren't. </p><p><br /></p><p>The concerns over deepseashadow were esclated to eBay for further investigation. They will review the situation. If you have further complaints against this member, I suggest you contact <a href="mailto:moderation@ebay.com">moderation@ebay.com</a>. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you for taking the time to message me. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regards,</p><p>Crimson[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bev aka thelmasstuff, post: 343, member: 23"][SIZE=4][B]Hope you all don't mind reading LONG emails. Here is the correspondence I first sent to the Mod and then emailed directly to Ebay on his recommendation.[/B][/SIZE] Attached is a message I sent to one of the Lithium Mods and his reply. I am hoping this matter reaches the attention of someone in charge who can at least take it in the honest spirit that it is written. I value my anonymity on the Boards to protect my family from potential lurkers, but am sure the Ebay Admin people know who we all are. The Boards used to be a friendly place. Posters might disagree, but it wasn't nasty. This one person has in essence ruined the enjoyment for all of us and we have been accused of "ganging up" on him. I don't personally know most of the other posters. I know a couple, who have now left, who were well-respected authors of guide books. They got sick of it and it's too bad. There are people who inherit or buy items that they know nothing about. Most of us try to help them learn what their item is and how to properly care for it to retain or even increase its value. Only Deep Sea Shadow takes some kind of pleasure in continually giving bad advice and no one else is allowed to correct him. Maybe it doesn't affect you, but the person who reads these posts has no idea that using some of these procedures will irreparably harm their antique. Those of us who love antiques do not want to see them destroyed. Additionally, DSS continues to be insulting in a very subtle manner and somehow you don't seem to hold him to the strict rules you place on the rest of us. It's appalling. We all know that in spite of all the other sites that have popped up, Ebay continues to be the main online sales venue. You need to take some responsibility for this. Thank you for your attention. thelmasstuff thelmasstuff wrote: I'm guessing this email will be given the same answer - there is no policy against people giving incorrect information. However, the one person who is deliberately giving BAD information, and I did say DELIBERATELY, has been stirring up the Antique Board for a couple of years. Many of us who are actual antique dealers who have good reputations are being disciplined, yet this poster continues to agitate. I thought one of Ebay's policies was to deter posters from causing trouble? Why can't you enforce that policy? If numerous users point to the same trouble spot and you continue to ignore it, what are we to think? Selective enforcement of policies. You know who we all are in real life. You have my permission to contact anyone in my town to ask if I'm a reputable person. I'm a Past President of my Rotary Club and the local Chamber of Commerce. My husband is a Selectman. We are public figures and would not do anything to jeopardize our relationship in the community. I am a truthful person and I'm telling you that you should find a way to ban Deep Sea Shadow and bring the boards back to being friendly places where there can be a positive exchange of ideas. Today is May 22, 2014. I have bitterly complained many times before. Lately, I've just stayed off the boards because it's too frustrating to try and give someone good, helpful information only to see one poster, Deep Sea Shadow, come along and give them bad information and new people take it as true. We know from his previous posts that he is doing it to be spiteful. He has said as much in the past. I wish I'd saved all those posts. He's laughing at the whole process because he can be anonymous and say what he wants. I wish at least one person who took his bad advice on how to care for an antique would come back to complain. That would validate our concerns. One time posters probably don't realize they could do that. This isn't a social media venue. This is a venue which purports to give people an opportunity to get information about their items. Some are intrinsically valuable and some are not, but the owners deserve fair and decent answers. They don't deserve to be treated like pawns in someone's evil game. My parents had an antique store and I've worked in the business since I helped them as a child. I'm not new to this and I hate to see people given very bad information just for one sick person's entertainment, and that's all it is. After two years of experts telling him he's wrong, DSS should have learned something. The fact that he persists and makes snide comments about everyone else proves that he is flaunting his ability to get away with it because he couches his insults in vagueness that, if you understand his point of view, would be obvious. Please, we are all begging you, do something about this situation. You've already lost a lot of REAL antique experts - people who have written books and who are sought out in the real world for their expertise - due to his machinations and your support of him. It's detrimental to Ebay. All we want is for the rules to be applied fairly. thelmasstuff Hi thelmasstuff, As moderators, we have no access to community members personal info, so we don't know who anyone is beyond what personal info any given user has posted on the boards. As you may be aware, we don't work for eBay, we work for Lithium. We do our utmost best to enforce the rules fairly and accurately. I'm sorry if you feel that we aren't. The concerns over deepseashadow were esclated to eBay for further investigation. They will review the situation. If you have further complaints against this member, I suggest you contact [email]moderation@ebay.com[/email]. Thank you for taking the time to message me. Regards, Crimson[/QUOTE]
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