Featured Jewelry help needed, pearls etc

Lucille, susan wasn't speaking of the clasp on your pearls, she meant the gold colored, filigree, bracelet.

 

Oops! Thanks, Messi! Let me go check!

 

By gosh, there does seem to be two marks on that piece, just by the ring at the clasp. Hard to make out, a bit blurry and small. I'll try to take a steady photograph and crop it.

Thanks for pointing that out -- I might have listed the pearls ...."Gilt filigree 14K clasp, possibly Portuguese...

 

@707susang

Do these marks look familiar? It was about as good as I could get with the camera.

 

Lucille, I am not home and all my books are there. Others have the Tardy book, wait for them.

 

I can't read your marks, but look here for Portugal.

http://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks3.html

 

Wow, I think I found it. To me looks like the "small articles second standard 833".

The eagle with its beak facing left. Thanks!

 

You're welcome. OX

 

Good for your, Sue! How in the world could you see that mark well enough to think Portugal??? I'm not sure, which of the following Portugal .833 mark it is.
1. cock/eagle head with "II" under it, 1866-1938, for
"Small articles tolerance 002/1000"
2. boar head with "II" under it, 1866-1938 for
"Small articles tolerance 005/1000"
3. cock/eagle head with "833" under it, in use since 1938.

925-1000 really doesn't go into all these on their website. Tardy does. Here are marks online:
Need to scroll on down the cock head 1866-1938 is about 1/2 way down, the boar head is about 4 marks below the cock, and the cock head used since 1938 is about 2/3rds or the way down the page. The marks on this site are drawn rather than pics of actual ones.
http://www.h.cx/?country=Portugal&province=Porto

Have no idea what the other mark is even after trying to edit it.

--- Susan

 

Hi Susan,

I was also impressed with Sue's help.

Pretty sure it is the mark with the 833 beneath. I tried to crop to get a larger close-up photo to post here but for some reason it just came out the same size in the post, but at home I could enlarge it. To be sure it is a very blurry and hard to read mark but I could make out the left facing beak, the distinct separation of the beak, and 833 was very plausible, much more so than the 916.

I've been looking at Portuguese filigree and this fits in stylistically, so pretty sure we are on the right track.

Thanks for taking a look!

 

Waving to you both! It was the style that made me think Portugal. I couldn't read the marks. Glad it helped.

 

Nice haul! I hope the pearls turn out to be real.

One thought, I have had many strands of costume pearls that were hand knotted so I never pay attention to that when looking them over.

 

True that! I agree and they can sure imitate pearls these days as millions of costume pearls have been made. I have had Mikimoto < and a couple with gold clasps (not like that one) that were good fakes.
I found it intersting that the Miki's can not really be identified only by the clasps and I took mine to several jewelers including a specialist at Tivoli and they said a pearl is a pearl is a pearl. Miki's choose only the nicest pearls
Did you first check the clasp with a magnet?
My fakes had the hook style clasps, I hope they are real too but what bothers me is the little connectors at the ends...the way many costume strands are made. I rooting for real though
Love the bracelet and that bird pin is adorable is it signed

 

I did not mean the Miki's were fake but have had several others that were

 

I hope I'm wrong, but must mention....
Does the clasp read 14KS? I've read where that could mean 14k plated over sterling....or it could be a makers mark of "S". Even if it is sterling, they could still be real pearls. Just wanted to mention it, if you take it to a jeweler. Maybe they could test for you.
Anyway, I hope they are real Lucille.b!

 

I posted pics of my pearls to show how its so difficult to tell by pics only. I am glad you are having them checked

 

Here is a site explaining jewelry markings, I am a bit confused on their take on 14KS though. I would think its 14K plated over sterling?
http://ocgold.com/blog/?p=2805

 

Found the following on the 14 K S markings. I'm not sure who is right or wrong.

Be sure to read the #6 reply - the 3rd up from the bottom:
http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/beach-shallow-water/93980-14k-s-whats-mean.html

--- Susan

 

Thanks for the additional responses. I'm learning about pearls!

Maybe this will clear things up, the mark is 14K G, not 14K S.

 

I hope they are real too but what bothers me is the little connectors at the ends...the way many costume strands are made. I rooting for real though...

Still haven't gotten over to the jewelers, but in the process of looking at comparables, the closest set I found under Ebay completed, sold as a real set, has the exact end connectors. Very similar in every regard, three strands graduated, and even has a similar looking white clasp, although marked 10K.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10K-GOLD-amp-SALT-WATER-PEARL-ANTIQUE-3-STRAND-NECKLACE-ART-DECO-/201204869448?pt=US_Fine_Necklaces_Pendants&hash=item2ed8bea948&nma=true&si=X3qovH%2FWEnHXeQPrBaHLkIpE1bY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I do appreciate all the pointers! Thanks.