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<p>[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4372721, member: 22714"]Matt</p><p><br /></p><p>I appreciate the variety of styles that Kutani has, it is different in that it's the Kilns and Kutani's formation was a business rather than a private kiln belonging to a fuedal lord such as Nabeshima or Satsuma. It is I think this distinction that makes Kutani so multi purpose and varied. However Kutani has a very strict rigorous tradition that is still followed today, and these low quality arbitrary and superficial generic kutani marks have no provenance, cannot be ascribed or attributed to any particular artist or company and most importantly location. They are not Kutani and there are dozens and of Japanese cultural societies that will never recognise them as Kutani.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lets take Satsuma, it is more vigorously defended. You might call a vase from China that is in the Satsuma style 'satsuma' but it is not Satsuma. I would rather not get into why but you know it is not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kutani unlike Satuma began as a business, and is freely copied, however Modern Kutani is still produced in the same prefecture or district and has strict traditions rules and socities that overlook these traditions.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a Kutani kiln and you can see why it is Kutani.You can trace the provenance. You can see how strictly it adheres to tradions and where it is located.</p><p><a href="https://kutanikosen.com/en/history.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://kutanikosen.com/en/history.html" rel="nofollow">https://kutanikosen.com/en/history.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>For an example lets take one of the most famous modern Kutani artists Buzan Fukushima. They are so dedicated to the craft that they actuallly live in the prefecture.</p><p><br /></p><p>Buzan Fukushima</p><p>[ATTACH=full]365764[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Every artist or Kiln will always be in the prefecture and will be a member of a society, and a full member of Japan Craft Association and will recieve recognition.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ishikawa Prefectural Intangible Cultural Property Kutani Ware Technique Preservation Society</p><p>Japan Traditional Art Crafts Exhibition</p><p>Japan Kogei Association</p><p>Ishikawa Award at the Kutani Ware Industrial Design Competition</p><p><br /></p><p>In 1951 Minori Yoshida was the third generation to take over Kinzan Kiln. The Kinzan Kiln in Kutani Village was opend by Shusaku Yoshida in 1906. The kiln developed the “Kinsai” techniques. Kinsai is a type of gold leaf painting technique that continues to undergo improvements today.</p><p><br /></p><p>In 2001, the Kinzan Kiln was designated a Living National Treasure of pottery painting. Minori Yoshida, master of the Kinzan Kiln, received the Medal of Honor from the government of Japan in 2001. He has also received many awards from all over the Japan. His works were presented to the Japanese Royal Family.</p><p><br /></p><p>Minori Yoshida</p><p>[ATTACH=full]365765[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You can see how strict the Kutani Ware Traditional Craftsmen Association and Ishikawa Traditional Art Crafts societies are in Ishikawa, the kilns are visited by the Japanese Emperor and the Prime minister of Japan will be there for award ceremonies.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some generic, unknown mass produced low quality ware that has no membership or recognition, is not hand painted or artisitc, and is not in the prefecture but mass producing for export to foreigners might have a kutani style to it, but it is not Kutani. If it was we would already be discussing the Kiln and perhaps even the artist. Royal Satumsa is about the same, but with the exception at least we know it is royal satuma from the factory mark. If it was a genericly marked royal satumsa we should not assume it is real satumsa.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am going to use this as an example....</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/royal-satsuma" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/royal-satsuma" rel="nofollow">https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/royal-satsuma</a></p><p>When you begin to collect or become interested in Satsuma Pottery, you may come across several terms that you are unfamiliar with. One such term which can also be misleading is "Royal Satsuma".</p><p><br /></p><p>The term "Royal Satsuma" refers to the type of <a href="https://satsuma-pottery.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://satsuma-pottery.com/" rel="nofollow">Satsuma Pottery</a> that was mass produced to be sold abroad. It is also possible that the piece of pottery was even made in somewhere like China too - such was the demand for Satsuma style pieces after they were made known to the world.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have a piece of pottery that is marked "Royal Satsuma" on the bottom, then it is certainly <a href="https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/is-my-satsuma-pottery-genuine" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/is-my-satsuma-pottery-genuine" rel="nofollow">not an authentic piece</a> from Japan. It could have been made in Japan, but it will not be a proper antique.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4372721, member: 22714"]Matt I appreciate the variety of styles that Kutani has, it is different in that it's the Kilns and Kutani's formation was a business rather than a private kiln belonging to a fuedal lord such as Nabeshima or Satsuma. It is I think this distinction that makes Kutani so multi purpose and varied. However Kutani has a very strict rigorous tradition that is still followed today, and these low quality arbitrary and superficial generic kutani marks have no provenance, cannot be ascribed or attributed to any particular artist or company and most importantly location. They are not Kutani and there are dozens and of Japanese cultural societies that will never recognise them as Kutani. Lets take Satsuma, it is more vigorously defended. You might call a vase from China that is in the Satsuma style 'satsuma' but it is not Satsuma. I would rather not get into why but you know it is not. Kutani unlike Satuma began as a business, and is freely copied, however Modern Kutani is still produced in the same prefecture or district and has strict traditions rules and socities that overlook these traditions. This is a Kutani kiln and you can see why it is Kutani.You can trace the provenance. You can see how strictly it adheres to tradions and where it is located. [URL]https://kutanikosen.com/en/history.html[/URL] For an example lets take one of the most famous modern Kutani artists Buzan Fukushima. They are so dedicated to the craft that they actuallly live in the prefecture. Buzan Fukushima [ATTACH=full]365764[/ATTACH] Every artist or Kiln will always be in the prefecture and will be a member of a society, and a full member of Japan Craft Association and will recieve recognition. Ishikawa Prefectural Intangible Cultural Property Kutani Ware Technique Preservation Society Japan Traditional Art Crafts Exhibition Japan Kogei Association Ishikawa Award at the Kutani Ware Industrial Design Competition In 1951 Minori Yoshida was the third generation to take over Kinzan Kiln. The Kinzan Kiln in Kutani Village was opend by Shusaku Yoshida in 1906. The kiln developed the “Kinsai” techniques. Kinsai is a type of gold leaf painting technique that continues to undergo improvements today. In 2001, the Kinzan Kiln was designated a Living National Treasure of pottery painting. Minori Yoshida, master of the Kinzan Kiln, received the Medal of Honor from the government of Japan in 2001. He has also received many awards from all over the Japan. His works were presented to the Japanese Royal Family. Minori Yoshida [ATTACH=full]365765[/ATTACH] You can see how strict the Kutani Ware Traditional Craftsmen Association and Ishikawa Traditional Art Crafts societies are in Ishikawa, the kilns are visited by the Japanese Emperor and the Prime minister of Japan will be there for award ceremonies. Some generic, unknown mass produced low quality ware that has no membership or recognition, is not hand painted or artisitc, and is not in the prefecture but mass producing for export to foreigners might have a kutani style to it, but it is not Kutani. If it was we would already be discussing the Kiln and perhaps even the artist. Royal Satumsa is about the same, but with the exception at least we know it is royal satuma from the factory mark. If it was a genericly marked royal satumsa we should not assume it is real satumsa. I am going to use this as an example.... [URL]https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/royal-satsuma[/URL] When you begin to collect or become interested in Satsuma Pottery, you may come across several terms that you are unfamiliar with. One such term which can also be misleading is "Royal Satsuma". The term "Royal Satsuma" refers to the type of [URL='https://satsuma-pottery.com/']Satsuma Pottery[/URL] that was mass produced to be sold abroad. It is also possible that the piece of pottery was even made in somewhere like China too - such was the demand for Satsuma style pieces after they were made known to the world. If you have a piece of pottery that is marked "Royal Satsuma" on the bottom, then it is certainly [URL='https://www.satsuma-pottery.com/is-my-satsuma-pottery-genuine']not an authentic piece[/URL] from Japan. It could have been made in Japan, but it will not be a proper antique.[/QUOTE]
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