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<p>[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4341433, member: 22714"]Could this be fake?</p><p><br /></p><p>America is more common for fakes than europe as Nippon has a whole new meaning in America. There are rarely as many fakes in europe and Noritake replaces or fills the space of Nippon. Nippon Toki Kaisha Ltd the precursor to Noritake was making porcelain in the late 19th and the early 1900's. The Noritake company followed and the 'Komaru' symbol for Noritake was released in 1908.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Morimura Kumi</i> (Morimura Brothers) are the company behind your backmark called the Nippon Maple leaf, they were the founders of Noritake. The Rose design on Nippon vases was likely an origional concept for this 'rose design' on the noritake vases below. </p><p><br /></p><p>So you can compare the style of the noritake painting and secondly you can also get an idea of the Gold leaf they used. Noritake of that era was i think was better quality than what many refer to as Nippon in my opinion, with a much higher bone china and better artists and factory. Then again Nippon is loved for the era it represents and there are superior Nippon to Noritake, and of course later Noritake is not Nippon. Many people would likely disagree with that and some people don't like Noritake as much.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358726[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358727[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some examples of the genuine Backmark.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358729[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358728[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><u><b>In conclusion,</b></u> i think your vase is fake, I think the quality is poor and unlikley to be of the standard of the Morimura Brothers, and the backmark also looks fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>The quality should be the first sign, and i went to so much trouble to make this post because i think that vase is ghastly.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a Nippon which is more likley to be a real Morimura and also has the correct maple leaf backmark.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358731[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are 2 early Nortiake rose vases.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]358732[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Francisco G Kempton, post: 4341433, member: 22714"]Could this be fake? America is more common for fakes than europe as Nippon has a whole new meaning in America. There are rarely as many fakes in europe and Noritake replaces or fills the space of Nippon. Nippon Toki Kaisha Ltd the precursor to Noritake was making porcelain in the late 19th and the early 1900's. The Noritake company followed and the 'Komaru' symbol for Noritake was released in 1908. [I]Morimura Kumi[/I] (Morimura Brothers) are the company behind your backmark called the Nippon Maple leaf, they were the founders of Noritake. The Rose design on Nippon vases was likely an origional concept for this 'rose design' on the noritake vases below. So you can compare the style of the noritake painting and secondly you can also get an idea of the Gold leaf they used. Noritake of that era was i think was better quality than what many refer to as Nippon in my opinion, with a much higher bone china and better artists and factory. Then again Nippon is loved for the era it represents and there are superior Nippon to Noritake, and of course later Noritake is not Nippon. Many people would likely disagree with that and some people don't like Noritake as much. [ATTACH=full]358726[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358727[/ATTACH] Here are some examples of the genuine Backmark. [ATTACH=full]358729[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358728[/ATTACH] [U][B]In conclusion,[/B][/U] i think your vase is fake, I think the quality is poor and unlikley to be of the standard of the Morimura Brothers, and the backmark also looks fake. The quality should be the first sign, and i went to so much trouble to make this post because i think that vase is ghastly. Here is a Nippon which is more likley to be a real Morimura and also has the correct maple leaf backmark. [ATTACH=full]358730[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]358731[/ATTACH] Here are 2 early Nortiake rose vases. [ATTACH=full]358732[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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