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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 1223700, member: 2844"]Agree, those are all traditional Indonesian motifs, butterfly, stylized floral, and peacock. Your little dancer is not.</p><p>However, the leaf motif underneath the little dancer on both yours and the one in the collection komo posted is similar to the motif underneath the butterfly on one of the hairpins Steve (all_fakes) posted. They all look rather Balinese.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your happy dancer pin:</p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/img_4413-jpg.214926/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Indonesian butterfly pin:</p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tXYAAOSwghFc7t1Z/s-l1600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And for comparison, the base of one of my Balinese statues:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]215086[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The concept of tribal/native cultural rights is alien to the Balinese. It is known in Western countries, and to tribal/native peoples in those countries. This is mostly because those cultures have already lost so much due to destructive measures by the dominant culture in their native country.</p><p>But it is rarely an issue in other countries.</p><p>The Balinese have a more communal and inclusive culture. Carvers have always copied popular motifs by wellknown Balinese artists. So when Western traders ask them to copy something from another country, they have no issue with that.</p><p>Unfortunately it happens on a large scale, and the unscrupulous traders who commission the items are at fault, not Balinese carvers who are trying to make a living. They have no idea their products can harm tribal identity and arts elsewhere in the world, and the collectors who are trying to find and preserve genuine tribal art.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 1223700, member: 2844"]Agree, those are all traditional Indonesian motifs, butterfly, stylized floral, and peacock. Your little dancer is not. However, the leaf motif underneath the little dancer on both yours and the one in the collection komo posted is similar to the motif underneath the butterfly on one of the hairpins Steve (all_fakes) posted. They all look rather Balinese. Your happy dancer pin: [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/img_4413-jpg.214926/[/IMG] The Indonesian butterfly pin: [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/tXYAAOSwghFc7t1Z/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG] And for comparison, the base of one of my Balinese statues: [ATTACH=full]215086[/ATTACH] The concept of tribal/native cultural rights is alien to the Balinese. It is known in Western countries, and to tribal/native peoples in those countries. This is mostly because those cultures have already lost so much due to destructive measures by the dominant culture in their native country. But it is rarely an issue in other countries. The Balinese have a more communal and inclusive culture. Carvers have always copied popular motifs by wellknown Balinese artists. So when Western traders ask them to copy something from another country, they have no issue with that. Unfortunately it happens on a large scale, and the unscrupulous traders who commission the items are at fault, not Balinese carvers who are trying to make a living. They have no idea their products can harm tribal identity and arts elsewhere in the world, and the collectors who are trying to find and preserve genuine tribal art.[/QUOTE]
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