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<p>[QUOTE="Sam Hills, post: 3303759, member: 17876"]Blooey, Roaring20s, Rink28, moreotherstuff, thank you all for the input and research.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is unbelievable to see that you were able to pinpoint the name of the painting, the markings etc! Well done and many thanks for your interest. I learnt a lot here already. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Question remains, who painted this? </b></p><p><br /></p><p>Aegidius Sadeler or Guiseppe Cesari or one of their apprentices? Maybe Belgian painters from Liege? I searched around a bit and found that there were two known Belgian painters from Liege who spent time in Italy around the time of this painting (beginning 17th..) who were known to paint in ‘brighter’ colors as appears to be the case in my painting: Bertholet Flemalle and Gerard Duffet. J.J. Chapuis had an interest in them too as he owned works by them. </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Can we already conclude this is not an original?</b> <b>Stupid question, does this affect the value?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>It seems that all versions out there sold, are attributed to Guiseppe Cesari but without 100% certainty. Here is an example, I saw somewhere that it sold for between 15 and 20k USD: <a href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/flagellation-of-christ-158-c-ea642e79f7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/flagellation-of-christ-158-c-ea642e79f7" rel="nofollow">https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/flagellation-of-christ-158-c-ea642e79f7</a> Would you experts say mine is of higher or lower quality? This one is bigger than mine, does that affect the value? </p><p><br /></p><p>I will reach out to Sothebys Amsterdam and ask for an appraisal and I will keep you informed of all updates.</p><p><br /></p><p>I look forward to your replies!</p><p>Sam[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sam Hills, post: 3303759, member: 17876"]Blooey, Roaring20s, Rink28, moreotherstuff, thank you all for the input and research. It is unbelievable to see that you were able to pinpoint the name of the painting, the markings etc! Well done and many thanks for your interest. I learnt a lot here already. [B]Question remains, who painted this? [/B] Aegidius Sadeler or Guiseppe Cesari or one of their apprentices? Maybe Belgian painters from Liege? I searched around a bit and found that there were two known Belgian painters from Liege who spent time in Italy around the time of this painting (beginning 17th..) who were known to paint in ‘brighter’ colors as appears to be the case in my painting: Bertholet Flemalle and Gerard Duffet. J.J. Chapuis had an interest in them too as he owned works by them. [B]Can we already conclude this is not an original?[/B] [B]Stupid question, does this affect the value?[/B] It seems that all versions out there sold, are attributed to Guiseppe Cesari but without 100% certainty. Here is an example, I saw somewhere that it sold for between 15 and 20k USD: [URL]https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/flagellation-of-christ-158-c-ea642e79f7[/URL] Would you experts say mine is of higher or lower quality? This one is bigger than mine, does that affect the value? I will reach out to Sothebys Amsterdam and ask for an appraisal and I will keep you informed of all updates. I look forward to your replies! Sam[/QUOTE]
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