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<p>[QUOTE="Jet, post: 3166783, member: 13952"]Frame</p><p>18 1/2" wide</p><p>25 1/2" tall</p><p><br /></p><p>Inside of frame</p><p>14 1/2" wide</p><p>21 1/2" tall</p><p><br /></p><p>Marked:</p><p><br /></p><p>COOL OF THE EVENING</p><p>BY ETHEL MAY COFFMAN</p><p><br /></p><p>CONRAD, HUG GALLERIES INC. 1011A GRAND AVE. KANSAS CITY, MO.</p><p><br /></p><p>I purchased this years ago in a small thrift store. It had all the earmarks to me of an older well made frame, and the brass plaque stating the name of the piece and artist on the bottom, with another on the back stating a gallery name and address seemed unusual to me if it had been done by an amateur, but who knows? You can buy a plaque and put it on anything. It did peak my interest though. It is behind glass, and difficult to photograph without flash which of course reflects poorly, so let me know if better photos are needed</p><p>[ATTACH=full]295408[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295409[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295416[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295420[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295421[/ATTACH]</p><p>I "think" it's oil on a black canvas board. (?) The details of her face do not have a distinct Native American Indian look to me, and the frame of her body is that of a larger size woman than those of the well known Indian Maiden calendar prints. I know only what I like, and could not claim to know much about art, but I have to say that this particular painting does not speak to me personally. I prefer more detail, something more realistic, closer to a photograph, and this seems to be a more abstract view of the subject to me if I'm using the word correctly, but again, what do I know? I do believe it's old, and have read in at least one case that James Arthur had painted over an actual photograph to create an Indian Maiden print. Could he possibly have drawn inspiration for one of his prints from an original painting?</p><p><br /></p><p>Clearly a 'version' of "In the Cool of the Evening" Indian Maiden print from the early 1900's by James Arthur.</p><p><br /></p><p>My question is, which came first? lol. If this is Ethel May Coffman's version of what she saw in a print, why is it framed, or marked with plaques I should say, from a gallery well known during the early 1900's for important acquisitions in the art world? Could it have actually been displayed in the gallery, maybe just a piece for a local artist show, or simply a frame job done for perhaps a well to do customer with an amateur unknown artists piece of work?</p><p><br /></p><p>I've searched the internet for Ethel May Coffman and found no mention of her anywhere in artists names, genealogy records, or obituaries.</p><p><br /></p><p>Many thanks in advance for any thoughts you might share![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jet, post: 3166783, member: 13952"]Frame 18 1/2" wide 25 1/2" tall Inside of frame 14 1/2" wide 21 1/2" tall Marked: COOL OF THE EVENING BY ETHEL MAY COFFMAN CONRAD, HUG GALLERIES INC. 1011A GRAND AVE. KANSAS CITY, MO. I purchased this years ago in a small thrift store. It had all the earmarks to me of an older well made frame, and the brass plaque stating the name of the piece and artist on the bottom, with another on the back stating a gallery name and address seemed unusual to me if it had been done by an amateur, but who knows? You can buy a plaque and put it on anything. It did peak my interest though. It is behind glass, and difficult to photograph without flash which of course reflects poorly, so let me know if better photos are needed [ATTACH=full]295408[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295409[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295416[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295420[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]295421[/ATTACH] I "think" it's oil on a black canvas board. (?) The details of her face do not have a distinct Native American Indian look to me, and the frame of her body is that of a larger size woman than those of the well known Indian Maiden calendar prints. I know only what I like, and could not claim to know much about art, but I have to say that this particular painting does not speak to me personally. I prefer more detail, something more realistic, closer to a photograph, and this seems to be a more abstract view of the subject to me if I'm using the word correctly, but again, what do I know? I do believe it's old, and have read in at least one case that James Arthur had painted over an actual photograph to create an Indian Maiden print. Could he possibly have drawn inspiration for one of his prints from an original painting? Clearly a 'version' of "In the Cool of the Evening" Indian Maiden print from the early 1900's by James Arthur. My question is, which came first? lol. If this is Ethel May Coffman's version of what she saw in a print, why is it framed, or marked with plaques I should say, from a gallery well known during the early 1900's for important acquisitions in the art world? Could it have actually been displayed in the gallery, maybe just a piece for a local artist show, or simply a frame job done for perhaps a well to do customer with an amateur unknown artists piece of work? I've searched the internet for Ethel May Coffman and found no mention of her anywhere in artists names, genealogy records, or obituaries. Many thanks in advance for any thoughts you might share![/QUOTE]
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