Featured Identification: Large Hand Painted Victorian Brooch

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Wedding or Communion Brooch?

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  1. MAGDELLAS

    MAGDELLAS Member

    Oh my! what a resemblance. I will look into this, thank you for the information Figtree3.
     
  2. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Look at the flowers in the scarf.
    upload_2017-8-25_18-50-51.png upload_2017-8-25_18-51-21.png
     
  3. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    The red "coral" may have been the jewelers way of adding color and has nothing to do with what was actually worn. Also, if the necklace was done as pearls like the photo, the red lips would have stood out too boldly.
     
  4. lauragarnet

    lauragarnet Well-Known Member

    Wow @Figtree3 !!! Amazing ID!
    Actress-Mary-Anderson-Painted-Porcelain-Portrait-Brooch.jpg
    That is too perfect to be coincidence.
     
  5. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    You've nailed it Fig! I would never have thought of Juliet.
    And she is wearing pearls, probably costume. The painter had probably mixed too much red for the lips and rosy cheeks.;)
     
  6. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I guess that collecting lots of 19th-century theatrical photos paid off! I don't think I have a copy of this particular photo, but now I'll have to look to make sure. I have so many at this point...

    Because the artist who painted the brooch did not really seem to attempt to make the face look like that of Mary Anderson, it's possible that they just liked the image in general and decided to emulate it. (Or maybe the person was not very good at copying faces.)

    By the way, I believe that necklace might have had a cross on the end of the part hanging down. I'm trying to find another shot from the same sitting that might show that.
     
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  7. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I found this shot... It doesn't show definitively that it is a cross but you can see there is something at the end of the pearls that are hanging down. And I've seen pictures of her as Juliet, not wearing the veil, and I believe she was wearing a similar necklace with a cross -- perhaps the same one.

    Mary Anderson Juliet veil2.jpg
     
  8. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I meant to say earlier that the brooch on porcelain definitely looks painted, but what hit me more than that was that she looks SO SAD.....especially since you (all?) believe she's wearing a wedding veil.......
     
  9. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Well, I'm not sure of the intention of the artist as to what sort of outfit they meant it to be on the brooch. And you've probably seen in the "wedding photos" thread in the Ephemera and Photographs section that some brides in old photos did look pretty solemn, if not sad.
     
  10. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

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  11. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

  12. MAGDELLAS

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  14. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    You're welcome, Magdellas!
     
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  15. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    Way to go, Fig!
     
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  16. KentWhirled

    KentWhirled Well-Known Member

    Fit is amazing!

    Back to the handpainted or transfer question. IMHO, it's both. Part is transferred on (black outlines) and detail is then handpainted on. These porcelain "cameos" showed the range in quality -- totally transfer to part transfer/part painted to these best; all handpainted.
     
  17. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    For anybody who was interested in figuring out what Mary Anderson's necklace looked like... it turns out that I do own a different photo from the same sitting. This is a cabinet card photo.

    First the full photo:

    Mary Anderson Necklace Veil original (520x800).jpg


    Then a crop showing the necklace. It is a little blurry, but it looks like the choker part includes pearls and the cross might be faceted stones? The cross doesn't look the same.

    Mary Anderson Necklace Veil.JPG
     
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  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Figgy - Blown away that you could finger the lady & image behind the miniature. Maybe painter switched necklace to coral because it is easier to paint than pearls are? I can only add that the porcelain factories of Limoges, France, were the major source for this sort of thing.
     
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  19. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Thank you, Bronwen -- As I mentioned, I am a collector of antique photos of people in costume, and have ended up with a lot of theatrical photos. Because of this I've read some 19th-century theatrical history, especially U.S. and Great Britain. And I've looked at a lot of photos, even when I don't own them! That being said, there are a lot of performers who were relatively unknown... so my success rate on ID-ing them is not always good.
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Mrs. Siddons came into my researches on one of my pieces. My cameo is not of the actress; she is the wife of the last peer to be hanged in England.
     
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