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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;gregsglass, post: 11427, member: 78&quot;]Hi,</p><p>&nbsp; Forget the religious idea. The dove is never supposed to be seen upright. The passage in the bible says the Holy Spirit DESCENDED like a dove. Appears to be a thunderbird of the south west.</p><p>greg[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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