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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 9634811, member: 2844&quot;]I think your thoughts didn&#039;t make it all the way to your earlier posts, it happens sometimes. This mode of communication is not the best for making ourselves understood.</p><p>I understand what you are saying from a dualist viewpoint. Dualism isn&#039;t exactly my background, but obviously my theology study delved deep into it. Later studies and living in a Western culture also helped, but my own perception is more towards non-dualism.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think many people think or hope that (a) God can and should intervene. Many others don&#039;t think of (a) God in that way though. Expectations versus simply being, I guess.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mysticism may have seekers, but I doubt they&#039;ll get to where they want to be. It either hits you or it doesn&#039;t.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t know what you mean by practitioners. When you have one or more mystical experiences you contemplate on it, of course. Many mystics try to live in harmony with what they perceive to be important, but so do many non-mystics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mysticism as such doesn&#039;t, but its interpretation into a worldly context does. At least 99% gets lost in translation. Which is why many mystics don&#039;t talk about it. Others place it in the context of their culture and time.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think you&#039;ll find I didn&#039;t express my view of purity in the sense of dark and light, or spiritual, religious or otherwise. I don&#039;t find it necessary to have a view.</p><p><br /></p><p>I mentioned the purity of real mysticism, as in, mysticism without any other disciplines, techniques, etc mixed in. Just like a pot of pure blue paint without any yellow mixed in.</p><p>Some things can be purely what they are, and when something else is mixed in they stop being what they are. As simple as that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Obviously, but that has nothing to do with what we were discussing.</p><p><br /></p><p>They can&#039;t agree on what? I don&#039;t quite follow you.</p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s OK, you expressed it differently at first, but it is clear now.</p><p><br /></p><p>What is not clear is the &quot;greatest minds can’t agree&quot; statement. They probably can&#039;t agree on a lot of things, but what exactly do you mean?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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