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Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Vicky McFadden, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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    How did you do the back ?
    & what's it look like ???
     
  2. Thanks found the articals very informative
     
  3. Hi mainly scratched it and but if found if you wer a sanding block a little and rub and then wipe the wet away that helps too
     
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  4. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    Paint stripper WILL remove gold leaf. You should never use anything wet on gilding unless you are 100% sure it is NOT water gilded. Anything that is wet will start to destroy the gesso under the gold.

    If you are 100% positive it was oil gilded, you can use mineral spirits. Even then, you risk damaging the gold.
     
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  6. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    It is not water gilded. However, you have pieces of the wood already exposed where the gold has worn away. I would not use the mineral spirits because of the exposed wood. You could try some denatured alcohol on a q-tip but don't do it right on the front. Find a small space on the back to experiment.
     
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  7. They only thing I have at my disposal today would be 100 % asyprol (food grade) what's your thoughts on that pls
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Wow, you've done a lot already, and it is starting to look better with that gold.
    Knowing the age can help to identify what kind of gilding or paint and base coat could have been used, that is why it is good to know before anyone can give advice.
    But I agree, what counts in the end is that you like it.
     
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  9. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Vicky, sorry not familiar with that stuff - is that a brand name or something?

    #neverheardofit :oldman::wideyed::(
     
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  10. i need help

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    Maybe isopropyl, which runs the same as rubbing alcohol to about 90percent.?
     
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  11. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    That's probably it - isopropyl .... should be fine.
     
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  12. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    I've studied gilding for many years and studied under a well known gilder and restorer. All the books I've read (there are many) and the gilders I've met only use denatured alcohol. I wouldn't use anything else. Just my humble opinion.
     
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  13. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    I too am a restorer and have done a fair bit of gilding, regency mirrors, bulls-eye mirrors, furniture etc. Projects missing even the entire gesso and bole undercoats - so I'm familiar with working with antiques from bare wood on up to the final burnishing. I am (was) a water gilt specialist although I have done some oil gilding.

    IMHO this statue is probably dutch metal and requires no special alcohol to get the silver coat off. It isn't like it's particularly valuable or anything - the OP just wants it to look presentable and mainly "gold-ish"
     
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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    What is dutch metal?:confused: We Dutch have a great love of high finenesses gold (preferably together with Mediterranean red coral), but you probably don't mean that.:playful:

    The statue itself is wood, btw. And I agree, it has no great value, only the love Vicky has for it.
     
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  15. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Dutch metal is imitation gold leaf, in the trade. Basically, bronze leaf. It is easier to apply and handle than genuine gold leaf because it is quite a bit thicker, however it is never used in water gilding and of course cannot burnished.
    It is a reasonable facsimilie of gold leaf and is found on many less expensive "gilded" objects.
     
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  16. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    The value isn't important if it's something she likes and wants to preserve. After all that effort, it would be a shame for it to peel away.
     
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  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Absolutely.
     
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