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<p>[QUOTE="ValerieK, post: 4262360, member: 7360"]I was once lucky enough to have a Hermes ashtray to sell from a job lot, with a handpainted carnival horse as its design. They are so expensive that it is hard to believe that an owner would be so careless as to lose the suede base if it was the area bearing the brand name, especially as most of the value of the object is in the branding! Maybe, if it got messy, but a possible pointer towards an imitation. I found mine was described as a cigar ashtray - very large indentations for the cigar - but also many are now being described as "vide-poche", which is a tray for a man to empty his pockets at night, to avoid losing or forgetting the contents the next day. A useful and apparently popular item in France. They are also being made now without the cigarette indentations, but there is no reason an ashtray couldn't be used for the same purpose. If you search for "Hermes vide-poche" you may come up with more designs. I think that even the printed ones must be made in very limited design runs, to maintain the luxury nature of the gift; I think they are made for "the man (or woman) who has everything". The prices are truly incredible, alas mine had a chip and sold for less than a tenth of the new price![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ValerieK, post: 4262360, member: 7360"]I was once lucky enough to have a Hermes ashtray to sell from a job lot, with a handpainted carnival horse as its design. They are so expensive that it is hard to believe that an owner would be so careless as to lose the suede base if it was the area bearing the brand name, especially as most of the value of the object is in the branding! Maybe, if it got messy, but a possible pointer towards an imitation. I found mine was described as a cigar ashtray - very large indentations for the cigar - but also many are now being described as "vide-poche", which is a tray for a man to empty his pockets at night, to avoid losing or forgetting the contents the next day. A useful and apparently popular item in France. They are also being made now without the cigarette indentations, but there is no reason an ashtray couldn't be used for the same purpose. If you search for "Hermes vide-poche" you may come up with more designs. I think that even the printed ones must be made in very limited design runs, to maintain the luxury nature of the gift; I think they are made for "the man (or woman) who has everything". The prices are truly incredible, alas mine had a chip and sold for less than a tenth of the new price![/QUOTE]
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