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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 86815, member: 44"]The 1st as noted on it is a Knights of Columbus sword. It is their Columbus head, facing front, pommel sword that according to the following page started in the 1950s. Their sword before then had the head of Columbus facing to the side. I have tried to find dates for the T.C. Gleason Mfg. Co. with not much luck. It seems they were probably distributing fraternal swords from at least 1900 to maybe yesterday. Some of the Gleason's swords were made in Germany. As Spring said, Gleason is considered a fraternal regalia supplier. If you Google "T.C. Gleason Mfg. sword" many links to their swords will come up. Here is some history on Knights of Columbus swords:</p><p><a href="http://kcfourth.org/history-of-the-sword/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://kcfourth.org/history-of-the-sword/" rel="nofollow">http://kcfourth.org/history-of-the-sword/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The 2nd sword is a typical Knight's Templar sword as af said. The crown with the emerging cross (Cross of Life), no lack of Maltese crosses, with the knight's helmet pommel are usually a dead giveaway to being Knight's Templar, Masonic. The Wm. Scully Co. was a regalia supplier and may still be to fraternal orders. Seems the company was found in 1877:</p><p><a href="https://www.williamscully.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.williamscully.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.williamscully.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.williamscully.com/index.php/history" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.williamscully.com/index.php/history" rel="nofollow">https://www.williamscully.com/index.php/history</a></p><p><br /></p><p>They were the regalia supplier to the Canadian Military in the early 1900s and into WWI.</p><p>It is an Acrobat *.pdf file:</p><p><a href="http://www.williamscully.ca/documents/wsl_history.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.williamscully.ca/documents/wsl_history.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.williamscully.ca/documents/wsl_history.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>At present, I can't find a Scully Knights Templar sword. Here is a very ornate Knights Templar sword with the seller claiming it is 24K gold plated that is similar to yours, not identical. The page says the grip is ABS, plastic. I don't know if yours is of the same material or not.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a little info on Knights Templar swords. It has a listing of some regalia sword makers. Scully isn't listed, which may mean??? Sculley wasn't a supplier of Knights Templar swords in the states. This may be a British related (Canadian, Australian, etc...) Knights Templar sword???</p><p><a href="http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/masonic-knight-templar-swords/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/masonic-knight-templar-swords/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/masonic-knight-templar-swords/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Fraternal swords are noted for being over-the-top and these are no exception; however, fraternal swords are notorious for being decorative in purpose only.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 86815, member: 44"]The 1st as noted on it is a Knights of Columbus sword. It is their Columbus head, facing front, pommel sword that according to the following page started in the 1950s. Their sword before then had the head of Columbus facing to the side. I have tried to find dates for the T.C. Gleason Mfg. Co. with not much luck. It seems they were probably distributing fraternal swords from at least 1900 to maybe yesterday. Some of the Gleason's swords were made in Germany. As Spring said, Gleason is considered a fraternal regalia supplier. If you Google "T.C. Gleason Mfg. sword" many links to their swords will come up. Here is some history on Knights of Columbus swords: [URL]http://kcfourth.org/history-of-the-sword/[/URL] The 2nd sword is a typical Knight's Templar sword as af said. The crown with the emerging cross (Cross of Life), no lack of Maltese crosses, with the knight's helmet pommel are usually a dead giveaway to being Knight's Templar, Masonic. The Wm. Scully Co. was a regalia supplier and may still be to fraternal orders. Seems the company was found in 1877: [URL]https://www.williamscully.com/[/URL] [URL]https://www.williamscully.com/index.php/history[/URL] They were the regalia supplier to the Canadian Military in the early 1900s and into WWI. It is an Acrobat *.pdf file: [URL]http://www.williamscully.ca/documents/wsl_history.pdf[/URL] At present, I can't find a Scully Knights Templar sword. Here is a very ornate Knights Templar sword with the seller claiming it is 24K gold plated that is similar to yours, not identical. The page says the grip is ABS, plastic. I don't know if yours is of the same material or not. Here is a little info on Knights Templar swords. It has a listing of some regalia sword makers. Scully isn't listed, which may mean??? Sculley wasn't a supplier of Knights Templar swords in the states. This may be a British related (Canadian, Australian, etc...) Knights Templar sword??? [URL]http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/04/masonic-knight-templar-swords/[/URL] Fraternal swords are noted for being over-the-top and these are no exception; however, fraternal swords are notorious for being decorative in purpose only. --- Susan[/QUOTE]
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